Terrorist Attack kills 34 Youths in Lebanon

[fastpat]

Originally posted by jdm61
Gee, Wally.......does that mean that they can't go to the Master Race Spring Dance with us? LMAO Using that logic, we must be Asian, since many of our ancestors were Europeans that settled (or "stole" if you will) a country previously conrtrolled by proto-Chinese, Mongolian and Paleo-Siberian peoples

Come back when you can make sense, you're obfuscating again, this time with gibberish.

[jdm61]

Originally posted by fastpat
[B]No more or less than I like Israeli's who used aerial bombardment to continue to steal land from those to which it belongs.

Morally, there is no difference between a suicide bomber and an Israeli Air Force pilot who intentionally kills civilians. And, yes, that has and continues to happen.


The US government has no business, Constitutional or otherwise, in the mideast. Fortunately, Reagan had the good sense to leave Lebanon after Hezbollah showed him the door.

You're attempting to justify 80 years of US government murder and meddling in the mideast by the several attacks in response to that meddling. That's going to be tough, in fact, that's going to be impossible.

Nope.....just pointing out that your attempt at playing "patriotism card" was just as disingenuous as much of the rest of what you have said. Be loyal to America and yet blame America for hundreds of their people getting killed for doing their job? On a UN sanctioned peacekeeping mission.....not an "invasion". And what were we mddling with in the 1920's? I thought the Europeans were doing all of the meddling back them and we didn't medle until we "installed" our Israeli surrogates. And we didn't really support them much then. at least until the 1960's. I recall that a lot of their support actually came from places like West Germany and France.

[jdm61]

Originally posted by fastpat
[B]No more or less than I like Israeli's who used aerial bombardment to continue to steal land from those to which it belongs.

Morally, there is no difference between a suicide bomber and an Israeli Air Force pilot who intentionally kills civilians. And, yes, that has and continues to happen.


The US government has no business, Constitutional or otherwise, in the mideast. Fortunately, Reagan had the good sense to leave Lebanon after Hezbollah showed him the door.

You're attempting to justify 80 years of US government murder and meddling in the mideast by the several attacks in response to that meddling. That's going to be tough, in fact, that's going to be impossible.

Actually, the Armed Forces of the United States have business being anywhere the President tells then to go, Constitutionally speaking. And the BIG difference between a suicide bomber and an Israeli pilot who drops bombs on civilians is that the pilot get to go home after his mission...LMAO. You try to apply a very wishy washy version of Western morality to militant Islam.......it doesn't work. They think that they are carrying out the will of God. Using your logic, why can't we do the same thing?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by jdm61
Nope.....just pointing out that your attempt at playing "patriotism card" was just as disingenuous as much of the rest of what you have said. Be loyal to America and yet blame America for hundreds of their people getting killed for doing their job?

I'm extremely loyal to America and Americans, I have no use for the US government at all. The US governemnt is not and never has been America. Glad I could clear that up for you. Further, "just following orders" was dealt a substantial blow by the Nuremburg Trials, so that doesn't stand scrutiny either.

On a UN sanctioned peacekeeping mission.....not an "invasion".

Not relevant. The US government went where it didn't belong once too often and met up with some folks who could and did do something about it.

And what were we mddling with in the 1920's? I thought the Europeans were doing all of the meddling back them and we didn't medle until we "installed" our Israeli surrogates. And we didn't really support them much then. at least until the 1960's. I recall that a lot of their support actually came from places like West Germany and France.

The US government has been meddling in the mideast since World War One. Get some facts. First as an adjunct to the British hegemony in the mideast, and then as a replacement for the British as worldwide hegemon.

[Hugh R]

Never mid. Sorry I asked. My head hurts. I'm going to bed.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by red-beard
Thank-you! You are far too kind, but correct in every way!

I look forward to seeing you again!

James

You are indeed a lucky man. I am also blessed. I look forward to our next meeting as well.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by munro86
Your anti-semitic Pat-patently obvious.

There is no other way to see it...To deny truth and defend the lie you must be motivated by something other than honor; anti-semitism is the motivation. Patsy isn't alone, his friend's in the UN and the ME agree with him, not to mention his "confederate" brothers of the burning cross.

[fintstone]

This gets even more interesting. The building fell 7 hours after Israel's last attack in the immediate area. Isreal also provided videos from each weapon used in the area which clearly shows that none hit the building. Israel has also provided video that shows terrorists firing rockets from ajacent to the building that fell (clearly using civilians as a shield). It is suspected that Hezbollah had stored weapons in the building and the damage was a secondary blast. Mighty strange.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by fastpat
I recommend you show your wife this:
The 'hiding among civilians" Myth

Here are photos that prove once again just how wrong you are:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html

[Tobra]

Lets see, the IDF leaflets an area for days, "Get out of here, we are turning this block into rubble on July 30(or what ever) and a bunch of people, all sympathetic to the Hezbollah cause of exterminating all the Israelis, move in with their kids and start camping out in the evacuated area of town.

Arab children are taught that Jews are not human, they are Man-pigs. They print text books with this information in them. THink about that, institutionalized racism promoting genocide.

Do you suppose that maybe, just maybe, the folks who strap bombs to their kids and send them out to ride the Israeli school bus would be willing to sacrifice 3 dozen at once? Or even better, take a bunch of kids who died from other causes, say they died of hunger or thirst because the Hezbollah freedom fighters blocked the humanitarian supplies from getting through. Great tactic, brilliant really, if you can get past the sacrificing your children, which they did many years ago.

Oh, could you guys just respnd to pat without quoting him, sort of defeats the "Ignore" function

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
not to mention his "confederate" brothers of the burning cross.

Please let me correct your mistake. Anti-Semitism in America is almost exclusively in the Northeast, followed closely by the midwestern states. Anti-Semitism has absolutely no history in the Confederate States int he southeast.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by fintstone
Here are photos that prove once again just how wrong you are:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html

Information sourced from the Israeli's is more than a little bit tainted, it is patent propaganda.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Tobra
Lets see, the IDF leaflets an area for days, "Get out of here, we are turning this block into rubble on July 30(or what ever)

An act the Israeli's had no right to do.

and a bunch of people, all sympathetic to the Hezbollah cause of exterminating all the Israelis, move in with their kids and start camping out in the evacuated area of town.

No, the evidence is quite the contrary, the daycare center had been there for years. It was a deliberate act by the Israeli's for the purposes of terrorism. Israel is a terrorist state, born in terroism, founded by terrorists, and commits terrorist acts as a matter of principle.

Arab children are taught that Jews are not human, they are Man-pigs. They print text books with this information in them. THink about that, institutionalized racism promoting genocide.

Even if true, of what concern of yours is that? They aren't doing it in Israel.

Do you suppose that maybe, just maybe, the folks who strap bombs to their kids and send them out to ride the Israeli school bus would be willing to sacrifice 3 dozen at once? Or even better, take a bunch of kids who died from other causes, say they died of hunger or thirst because the Hezbollah freedom fighters blocked the humanitarian supplies from getting through. Great tactic, brilliant really, if you can get past the sacrificing your children, which they did many years ago.

Oh, could you guys just respnd to pat without quoting him, sort of defeats the "Ignore" function

Israel initiated this warfare and murder, they must be held accountable.

Those who use the ignore feature are empty shirts at best, and are usually cowards to the quick.

[snowman]

Pat, your just plain nuts.

No wonder Major is the major washout point in the military. Thats where the nut cases show their mettle. Been my experience with the military. How else would you discribe a Major who would blow in his branch chief Col for parking his winnibago in a no back in position. The branch chief got to work very early so he just drove his Winnie straight in. Easier to get out. If he had got to work late he would have to back in, but he didn't , he was always early. The Major was reviewed by the branch chief. How do you think he came out?? A zero on common sense.

Just one of a zillion examples of dumb sht stuff I have seen people at the rank of Major do.

[jdm61]

Originally posted by fastpat
Information sourced from the Israeli's is more than a little bit tainted, it is patent propaganda.

Oh ,man....I'm glad to told me that......guess i better start scanning DirecTV for Al Jazeera so I can get the REAL story...LMAO

[jdm61]

Originally posted by fastpat
Please let me correct your mistake. Anti-Semitism in America is almost exclusively in the Northeast, followed closely by the midwestern states. Anti-Semitism has absolutely no history in the Confederate States int he southeast.

If you are referring to the "don't let them join your country club" type of anti-semitism, then you are correct. Butyou better go back and read your Klan manual there smart guy...lol An incidentally, psuedo-scientific anti-semitism of the Nazi variety is a product of the mid to late 19th century, so you are correct that it would have had no place in the Confederacy. The anti-semitism and general xenophobia of the Klan, Aryan nation, Militias, etc came later. The figured they should branchout and become more broad based, i guess.

[jdm61]

Originally posted by fastpat
[B]An act the Israeli's had no right to do.

[b]
No, the evidence is quite the contrary, the daycare center had been there for years. It was a deliberate act by the Israeli's for the purposes of terrorism. Israel is a terrorist state, born in terroism, founded by terrorists, and commits terrorist acts as a matter of principle.

[b]
Even if true, of what concern of yours is that? They aren't doing it in Israel.


Israel initiated this warfare and murder, they must be held accountable.

Those who use the ignore feature are empty shirts at best, and are usually cowards to the quick.

Ok...I'm curious....if you are not anti-semitic, why do you seem to hate Israel so much...to the point of trying to beatify a murderous group of Islamic radicals that would just as soon kill you as say hello?

[fintstone]

Originally posted by fastpat
Information sourced from the Israeli's is more than a little bit tainted, it is patent propaganda.

Sorry Pat...wrong again. The photos were taken by an Australian journalist and printed in an Australian newspaper.

[nostatic]

Originally posted by fintstone
Sorry Pat...wrong again. The photos were taken by an Australian journalist and printed in an Australian newspaper.

egad, even worse! Those damn Aussies...they wanted to boot Bart Simpson!

[fastpat]

Originally posted by jdm61
Ok...I'm curious....if you are not anti-semitic, why do you seem to hate Israel so much...to the point of trying to beatify a murderous group of Islamic radicals that would just as soon kill you as say hello?

I don't hate Israel at all, to me it's just another country among hundreds on the planet.

What I do hate is that the US government, the entity that steals billions of private wealth, gives Israel 3 billion dollars outright each year, and gives them billions more in under-the-table assistance and hardware on top of that. In addition, Israel is heavily influential in US government foreign policy making; to the point that various Senators and Congressmen are cowed into voting for the above expenditures when they're known to be counter to America's best interests.

The money needs to stop, the military assistance needs to stop, and AIPAC and other Israeli operations in America need to be broken up, registered as agents of a foreign government, and members arrested or a combination of all three if that's what is necessary to put a stop to it.

Are you getting the picture yet, or do you need more "learnin'"?