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first Tom, now Mel..

First Tom goes all whacko on TV, now Mel decides to take a swipe at Jews. Something in the hugely-overpriced water?

Old 07-31-2006, 09:13 AM
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"On the Anti-Defamation League's website, national director Abraham Foxman said the statement released by Mr Gibson did not constitute "a proper apology"."

In a statement on Saturday, Mr Gibson said: "I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable.

"I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and I apologize to anyone who I have offended."

He added: "I have battled the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse."


Fukc the Anti-Defamation League. Sounds like Mel apologized just fine.
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That really surprised me. What an idiot. I thought Mel was a deeply religious very traditional catholic. How does he reconcile such bigotry with his faith?
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What did he actually say? What was his blood/alcohol content? What led to his drinking binge that evening?
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I wouldn't accept that apology either. It's not an apology, it's a PR offensive ahead of the really bad stuff about to come out.
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From today's NY Sun:

Orthodox rabbi, Daniel Lapin on Mr. Gibson, whom he considers a friend:

"While it's certainly true that alcohol betrays inner thoughts, those inner thoughts are not for any human being to criticize, " Rabbi Lapin said. "Only God should criticize our thoughts, and I don't know of anyone who doesn't harbor unworthy thoughts. My experience with Mel Gibson is that he's always been upright and honest and good with all his Jewish friends. In Judaism, we judge people by their actions — not what we think their thoughts are."
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Here is the original arrest report;

http://cdn.digitalcity.com/tmz_documents/gibson_wm_docs_072806.pdf
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I wouldn't accept that apology either. It's not an apology, it's a PR offensive ahead of the really bad stuff about to come out.
How is that not an apology, exactly? You just doubt his sincerity, so what am I thinking right now, since you apparently hear what is not said aloud. Try reading the Rabbi's quote and see if your change your mind.

Drunks say stupid stuff, Tom who?
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I say stupid stuff when I'm buzzed too ... just not "Fcuking Jews! Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Nor have I ever asked a cop, "Are you a Jew?"

And that's apparently the SANITIZED version.

Sorry, that's not "stupid" in my book. That's an evil mind unleashed by drink.
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I can see it now: "South Park, the Mel Edition, Vol. II).
When are these jerks going to rise above the "double standard" and actually get "OWNED" instead of saying what & who THEY own?
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Sorry, that's not "stupid" in my book. That's an evil mind unleashed by drink.
So you know exactly what he was thinking?

I could see one of my friends saying something like this after hearing an off-color joke (and I'm thinking of my friends from the Deerfield/Highland Park area ).
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I don't think it was meant to be funny.

To each his own. That's not a man that I would want to associate with, drunk or sober.
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I don't think it was meant to be funny.

To each his own. That's not a man that I would want to associate with, drunk or sober.
I really don't think you'll have to worry about that.
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I really don't think you'll have to worry about that.



Almost as if he were setting you up with the straight line, perhaps Rodeo is funnier than I thought.
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Almost as if he were setting you up with the straight line, perhaps Rodeo is funnier than I thought.
I don't think so. He's a simple soul with a lot of anger.
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I didn't think that exchange was particularly funny either.

Go figure.
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Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course” [10/21/06]

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That is because you said something stupid and were made sport of due to your faux pas(That is French for "bonehead play") People don't appreciate being made fun of, well most people anyway

So how is it that is not an apology again? Think about it
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I don't think it was meant to be funny.

To each his own. That's not a man that I would want to associate with, drunk or sober.
Agree.
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Mel wouldn't want to hang with me ... hahaha.

Unoriginal and unfunny. Mr. Wilson is mostly too nasty for my tastes anyway, but that one was just dull.

Eye of the beholder I guess.

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We will stay the course *** We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]
And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]
And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. [4/16/04]
And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]

Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course” [10/21/06]

--- George W. Bush, President of the United States of America
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