Clean those clips!

[charleskieffner]

Originally posted by cashflyer
Charles... Maybe I don't have the problems because of how I use (or don't use) the WD. I use it after cleaning the weapon as a spray down to make sure there are no un-oiled spots for rust or corrosion to start. I never thought of using it on my ammunition, and never have.

And while I was in the Army, we had a product that was exactly like WD - except it was in a brown can with an NSN. Next time I think about it, I'll check and see if I still have a can and can find out exactly what it is.

"try leaving your rifle outside in quad rack from a very wet snowy rainy slushie sleet freezing day hunting, covered. and the next day continue hunting in wet freezing snow sleet rain MUD, and see what happens to your WD-40 lubed up action"

Like I said, in 20+ years of shooting I have never had a WD lubed action jam, hang, etc. But then again, I don't do that kind of stuff to my weapons... ever.

to edify the situation, i wasnt going to bring rifle into warm tent, after days of slogging thru winter conditions. each and every day when we got back i covered my rifle after cleaning action. buddies wiped theres down w/wd-40, and left outside also covered. after 1st morning w/frozen action they figured it out. i didnt ask for the weather, but was prepared for it. it was nasty. ranger came into camp and warned us to bail out due to heavy snowfall. thats why in colorado, every hunting permit has $5 search and rescue fee. as mentioned wd-40 is a world war II anti-corrosion substance for aircraft parts stored outside on west coast. PERIOD. it has now become the wonder lube all in the eyes of the uneducated masses. break free is fantastic stuff. LPS is fantastic stuff. but you know what..............I DONT EVER LUBE MY ROGUARDED WEAPONS. also NSN and MIL-SPECD. there is a hell of alot of time and technology that has occurred since the 1940's.

the (5) weapons i have chosen so far that have been ROGUARDED, to defend my family if the crap ever goes down. are the following 1) HK-MSG-90 2)REM McMillian M40-A1 3) McMillian WINCHESTER M70- .338 4) BERETTA M-9(Italian made) 5) SPRING FIELD STAINLESS .45. they go bang every time. they will eat anything fed to them. they are happy. BE PREPARED!

pretty cool the one site showing disassembly of .45 clip with USGI bore brush end. i always fought with my fingers and a screwdriver. learn something new everyday on pelican!!!!

[Joeaksa]

One thing to remember is that its not a good idea to keep shells stored in a magazine. If you do, buy extra's and rotatate the rounds in there to keep the springs from weakening.

Agree on WD-40. Its a water displacement agent, not a lubricant. The WD people want you to believe that it will do for anything from an underarm spray to oil for the car, but its not. Get the proper lube and use it.

Lubemeister, the all knowing one, where are you when we need you???

[m21sniper]

happiness and warm fuzzies come from reaching out and TOUCHING SOMEONE or SOMETHING W/A 168GRAIN FEDERAL BOAT-TAIL HOLLOWPOINT!..................that goes BANG EVERYTIME!

M852 (military designation for the Sierra 168gr JHPBT round)....MmmmmMmmm good.

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by azasadny
The stuff we used when I was in the military (USN Corpsman attached to the USMC) was called "CLP" and the civilian version is called "Break Free". I still use Break Free to clean my pistols, shotgun and rifles. Good stuff...

Break-free is good in most environments, but you want to avoid it in deserts and very dusty conditions, and definitely in extreme cold weather conditions.

[id10t]

Best lube I've found for here in Fl. is nuke grade copper graphite antiseize. Got a 1lb can from a friend who works in a nuke plant, they "expire" everything every so often. It is basically the same stuff Glocks ship with from the factory. I've used it on all my guns, and no issues down into the high teens or up to the high 90s, slow or rapid fire, pump, semi pistol, bolt rifle, semi rifle (several designs), etc.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by id10t
Best lube I've found for here in Fl. is nuke grade copper graphite antiseize. Got a 1lb can from a friend who works in a nuke plant, they "expire" everything every so often. It is basically the same stuff Glocks ship with from the factory. I've used it on all my guns, and no issues down into the high teens or up to the high 90s, slow or rapid fire, pump, semi pistol, bolt rifle, semi rifle (several designs), etc.

Still have a can that I got while in the military years ago. It has to be 25 years old but still works great.

Aint nothing gonna sieze with this stuff on it, but pls put on latex gloves before applying this stuff, as it takes forever to get off of your hands and do not even think about clothing...

[cashflyer]

Originally posted by cashflyer
And while I was in the Army, we had a product that was exactly like WD - except it was in a brown can with an NSN. Next time I think about it, I'll check and see if I still have a can and can find out exactly what it is.

Well.... it certainly took me long enough to remember this little task. Anyway, I was storing away some ammunition this weekend and happened to remember.

The can is typical military generic labeling in a light brown color. The NSN is 9150-00-458-0075.
On the label, I find "The Bray Oil Company"
A quick search of the NSN reveals that BRAYCO 300 is the commercial equivalent.

This is NOT "CLP" or Break-free, which fall under the following NSNs:
9150-01-053-6688: 1-gallon bottle
9150-01-054-6453: 1-pint bottle with trigger sprayer
9150-01-079-6124: 4 fl.-oz. bottle
9150-01-102-1473: 0.5 fl.-oz. bottle
9150-01-327-9631: 1 liter-bottle with sprayer


I'm not saying that this is the best stuff since toast. What I'm saying is that this is what our armorer gave us to use on the M-16's while I was in the Army.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by red-beard
I clean my magazines when I clean my pistol. I don't have any clips to clean.

Same here, except for my Garand, it uses clips which are very easily cleaned. Of course, revolvers have neither clips nor magazines.

Here's a Garand with a loaded clip, the marksmanship award is NOT mine.


Loaded clips in Ammo pouches.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by cashflyer
Charles... Maybe I don't have the problems because of how I use (or don't use) the WD. I use it after cleaning the weapon as a spray down to make sure there are no un-oiled spots for rust or corrosion to start. I never thought of using it on my ammunition, and never have.

Next time you're in a gun shop, ask for a spray can of a Birchwood-Casey product called "sheath". Good stuff made for just that purpose.

[cashflyer]

I would like to make a point of correction:

In my original post to this thread, I denounced Remington Dri Lube. While storing some ammo this weekend, I found the offending product still in my cleaning supplies box... and I was mistaken about it's identity.

The product I hate so much turns out to be Outers Tri-Lube with Teflon.

This product left my weapons very VERY gummed up.

[Eric Coffey]

You might want to try MPC (FP-10 & PL-10). Great stuff.

[Aurel]

I like dirty clips but I do not use any lube

Aurel

[Usmellgass2?]

M21 how does dry teflon reduce signature?

[m21sniper]

Left over oil residue in the action and barrel increases muzzle flash and the visual smoke signiture for the first few initial rounds fired from a clean weapon.

Using dry teflon powder eliminates this source of fuel, thereby reducing the visible signature of the weapon upon firing.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Never a misfire or jam here and I use Hoppes.

I guess there's always a first time and maybe I'm just lucky - who knows.

[Robert Coats]

Clips, schmips!

Here a REAL 'un:



It's a 6" Colt Python, .357 Mag. Legendary finish, action and balance, I've been told. Never fired one, but hope to change that soon.