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Joeaksa 04-23-2007 07:17 AM

Just out a few minutes ago:

Monday, April 23, 2007 9:52 a.m. EDT

Al Gore Secretly Assembling Campaign

Political strategists close to Al Gore have secretly begun assembling a campaign team to prepare for a new run for the White House by the former vice president.

Two members of Gore’s staff from his unsuccessful campaign for the presidency in 2000 have been approached about working with Gore if he decides to toss his hat into the ring, they told Britain’s Sunday Telegraph.

One of Gore’s former campaign workers said: "I was asked whether I would be available toward the end of the year if I am needed. They know he has not ruled out running and if he decides to jump in, he will have to move very fast.

"He hasn’t asked them to do this, nor has he told them not to.”

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/4/23/95503.shtml?s=ic

hytem 04-23-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
hytem

They are simply labels used by folks without a scintilla of actual knowledge, designed to villify people with whom they do not agree. The idea of "liberal", "conservative" and others have no meaning anymore, having lost their meaning by being used too often and in too many cases. If people actually removed the emotional aspect and non-passionately analyzed an individual on specific issues, they might be surprised to find that some of those they defend are not worth defending and some they dispise are actually worthy of consideration. But, so many people are so ingrained with their own internal image of how things should be, they are incapable of objective thinking. Recent posts by our resident and self appointed "guru" uses the word "liberal" so often the word becomes gibberish. Total lack of objectivity in favor of labeling.

Sure, and you can blame the media about that--they like to view everyone as black or white, liberal or conservative. Ha. Just like many blacks have white blood, many conservatives have some liberal views and vice versa. That's why the independents still rule the roost. Hybrids are smarter.

Poor Pat Buchanon. Last election, his views were much like Kerry's on a lot of issues. When told of that, he said "Heck, I can't support Kerry. He's a liberal." LOL. Besides, if he did, he might lose his job as a "conservative" TV pundit.

the 04-23-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by hytem


Poor Pat Buchanon. Last election, his views were much like Kerry's on a lot of issues.

Name 5 issues.

hytem 04-23-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Just out a few minutes ago:

Monday, April 23, 2007 9:52 a.m. EDT

Al Gore Secretly Assembling Campaign

Political strategists close to Al Gore have secretly begun assembling a campaign team to prepare for a new run for the White House by the former vice president.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/4/23/95503.shtml?s=ic

Well, he did win the popular vote in 2000, though he was a weak candidate who didn't run strongly enough on Clinton's record.

I don't like the Hillary-Obama media show we have to put up with every night. They get all the attention because the media is so PC. Poor John Edwards gets none because he's a white male?
McCain and Guiliani aren't getting much attention, either.

Well, Gore is also a white male. The Democrats could use a stronger male image--especially in the Senate--that Reid is a milktoast, and he's managed to make the Republicans look like the majority in the Senate.

the 04-23-2007 05:07 PM

I think Gore has a better chance of winning, by far, than any other current Dem candidate.

red-beard 04-23-2007 05:15 PM

See my comments from this thread, I am not surprised by this at all

http://66.236.61.177/showthread.php?s=&threadid=333619

Racerbvd 04-23-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Dan in Pasadena
If "we" is conservatives? Then no. I think America, particualrly in the middle of the country is bigotted. The majority (huge) of voters don't have a friggn clue what anyone's voting record is....that is, other than what the slash and burn TV commercials tell them a candidate's record is.
I had an open mind until I heard obama's acceptance speech (not one being commentated on by the news, but his live one) and he is a MF socialist. It isn't that the middle of the country is bigotted, it is that their fathers and grandfathers fought against socialism and they don't want to see that happen to America. The only reason that gore won the popular vote in 2000 was all the liberals in CA & NY, add a few creative voting practices by the dnc. Fact is President Bush won all the recounts, and again in 2004, no matter how hard the media was against him.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1177378905.jpg

RoninLB 04-23-2007 08:09 PM

after Hillary, Gore has about the best political machine available.



i can't imagine Obama being the next war president!


at least Hillary can be ruthless if she has to.

Lothar 04-24-2007 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by kach22i
I think Hillary could be saying that in places like the mid-east she would send Bill in just for the reasons you might be thinking.

Doesn't that violate some treaty on the use of biological weapons?

lendaddy 04-24-2007 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by the
I think Gore has a better chance of winning, by far, than any other current Dem candidate.
First time I really disagreed with you. Gore has no chance, he will pull NO Republicans along. He has revealed himself wayyyy too much over the last 6 years to ever court the middle again.

Obama would pull a bunch more Republicans than Gore. I heard him speak at the DNC convention and he had me (a staunch Republican) nodding my head. Was it an act? More than likely, but Gore can't even fake it anymore.

Rick Lee 04-24-2007 06:29 AM

The interesting question will be whether Gore learned his lesson from 2000 on why he should have buttoned his lip on guns. His trying to outliberal Bill Bradley on the gun issue definitely cost him TN and WV, when he should have easily won those states. And having won them would have made FL a moot point and Gore would have handily won the electoral college vote.

72doug2,2S 04-24-2007 08:00 AM

I would pay money to see the "Hillary Vs. Gore" Smack down.

IMO, There aren't any two bigger egos in the entire world. Howard Dean can MC the big event, Oh man this is going to be good!

Jerry Springer, eat your heart out.

Moneyguy1 04-24-2007 08:21 AM

I keep wondering..no matter who wins in 2008, how could we be worse off than we are today?

72doug2,2S 04-24-2007 08:37 AM

Is there any law against losing three times in a row? Kinda like baseball or felonies?

Moneyguy1 04-24-2007 08:46 AM

Nixon came back from the grave, after losing to Kennedy in 1960.

kwm 04-24-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Nixon came back from the grave, after losing to Kennedy in 1960.
I think the mass drug use of the time played a big roll in that come back thought.

Gore did not just lose in TN. and WV. he lost pretty big all over the South and other rural areas.

Most all women would not chose Hilary as the first woman to make a serious run at the Oval Office and most woman have no respect for her either since she let her ass-clown of a husband swing his willie and any and every skirt in his line of sight.

Even as far as politicians are concerned Gore's level of phony is at all new levels. He could be the next Nixon though and I do liken him to Tricky Dick.

cairns 04-24-2007 09:10 AM

I'm a registered Democrat but will probably vote Republican...again. Hypocrisy and egos abound on both sides but the Democrats are the big winneers there.

Democrats:

Hillary is a power hungry hypocritatic witch who I've always despised. She'll say anything to anyone at anytime in order to further herself. No wonder Bill had women problems.

Obama is just too liberal. I think he could do the job- but his lack of experience, promises to the left and post VT comments mean no way jose. If his presidency were a movie it would be called Jimmy Carter 2- the horror returns.

Edwards is disgusting- he takes hypocrisy and ego to levels even Hillary match. I never realized someone could thank that highly of theirself. If he were in my high school he would have had the ***** kicked out of him regularly on general principal. But he does have the best hair of any candidate.

Gore: A fat joke of a hypocrite. He lost my support long before he ever became Mr. Environment. Anyone who supports him is a moron.

On the Republican side:

Brownback: Pluh-lease. Too conservative and he hasn't got a chance. Is anyone gonna vote for a dork from Kansas named Brownback?

Romney: Another too coservative for me- and he seems to have a bit of the Edwards disease. And the Jeffery Dahmer diesease.

McCain: Just SHUT UP John. A fantastic critic who beleives firmly in the power of hindsight. But not an executive or a leader. Hillary Jr. in many respects.

Thompson: Well maybe but I don't know where he stands on anything. Best voice of all the candidates. Reagan 2? We'll see.

Giulani: A pro-abortion real life individual who has shown he can lead and inspire. But first he has to win the Republican nod....

legion 04-24-2007 09:30 AM

Stalin's ghost came and visited me the other night. He told me with a twinge of bittersweet reflection that, being a dead man, he has no chance to reclaim his record as a ruthless communist with Hillary and Obama around...

Rick Lee 04-24-2007 09:31 AM

Carins, I concur with your every word there.

tc-sacto 04-24-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Hugh R
The way the republicans have been doing run away spending disgusts me. The way the dems want to give away all my money to everyone who makes less than me disgusts me as well. $9 Trillion is the official debt and I don't think that includes all the obligations for which IOUs have been written like Social Security and Medicare, to name a few. In the next 15 years we will have rampant inflation from the Feds printing gobs of money to pay those debts which will be coming due. The million bucks that your trying to sock away to retire with have 1/4 or less of the buying power you think it will have.


:mad: here here!!!

Is Joe lieberman still running as an idependent? If so, I may just vote for him vs. any Democan or Republicrat.

cairns 04-24-2007 09:46 AM

Actually both sides are spending like pigs- just on their own special interests. Remember the anti- earmarking bill Pelosi so grandly passed and the MSM hyped as the dawn of a new age?

Deader than a flat frog on Philadelphia freeway on the 4th of February.

The biggest earmarkers are on both sides of the aisle. Byrd, Stevens and Murphy were not going to give up what got them there.

RoninLB 04-24-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by cairns


Obama is just too liberal........... If his presidency were a movie it would be called Jimmy Carter 2- the horror returns.


bingo.. a depressed voter looking for something to believe in is the perfect set for Obama.. unless the voter believes we need another war President?

the set worked for Carter so it's not an impossibility.

speeder 04-24-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by RoninLB
bingo.. a depressed voter looking for something to believe in is the perfect set for Obama.. unless the voter believes we need another war President?

the set worked for Carter so it's not an impossibility.

The only way that the hypothetical candidate you describe gets elected, (the scary hyper-liberal), is on the heals of a Republican administration that is lower than whale schit on the bottom of the ocean in voters' eyes. So you might be on to something there...

And no, I don't think that people are looking for another self-described "war President" who starts BS wars and doesn't know how to extricate us from them. That's not selling real well. :cool:

red-beard 04-24-2007 10:02 AM

Depending on who the Republican and Demcocrat are, I could vote for Lieberman. I've voted 3rd party before....

Rick Lee 04-24-2007 10:25 AM

I could easily vote for Lieberman. I'd much rather vote for a honest man with a realistic world view, even if I disagree with most of his other positions, than just vote against someone else because they were the lesser of two evils. Liebermann is a good man, but I don't agree with him on much beyond nat. security.

kwm 04-24-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by red-beard
Depending on who the Republican and Demcocrat are, I could vote for Lieberman. I've voted 3rd party before....
AH would that be some kind of moral victory b/c other than that it would be a total waste of time, gas money to drive there, oxygen and everything else you can think of. You might as well vote for either the winner or the loser right? To vote 3rd party is just like throwing your hands up in the air in disgust isn't it.

the 04-24-2007 01:17 PM

I used to think that, too, and I guess I probably still do, but there is some legitimacy to voting for a third party candidate.

It's more of a long term view, though.

The only chance of a third party ever arising is if at some point, people start voting for third party candidates. It has to start somewhere, and will start slow. So at the present, yes, a vote for a third party candidate is a "wasted" vote, in a current election, but perhaps it helps lay the groundwork for the future.

livi 04-24-2007 01:22 PM

I get the impression "you can call me Al - Gore" is not the favorite candidate for many of you.

He SEEMS to care for the global environment. Thatīs a good thing, isnīt it ?

Dan in Pasadena 04-24-2007 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by kwm
AH would that be some kind of moral victory b/c other than that it would be a total waste of time, gas money to drive there, oxygen and everything else you can think of. You might as well vote for either the winner or the loser right? To vote 3rd party is just like throwing your hands up in the air in disgust isn't it.
I agree and will NOT be voting for a George Wallace, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader type, no chance.

the 04-24-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by livi

He SEEMS to care for the global environment. Thatīs a good thing, isnīt it ?

You haven't heard about his personal carbon footprint yet?

Dan in Pasadena 04-24-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by livi
I get the impression "you can call me Al - Gore" is not the favorite candidate for many of you.

He SEEMS to care for the global environment. Thatīs a good thing, isnīt it ?

Despite all the thrashing here it IS a good thing to care about it and I LIKE Gore and I'd have no problem voting for him.

But maybe that's because I don't find him "scary" or need my Mommy and my jammies when I hear him speak;) :D

livi 04-24-2007 01:36 PM

He was interviewed on a talk show here in Sweden recently. I do not know much about him or his agenda, but he seemed like a pleasant, well versed guy. Very normal - in a positive way.

Dan in Pasadena 04-24-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by livi
He was interviewed on a talk show here in Sweden recently. I do not know much about him or his agenda, but he seemed like a pleasant, well versed guy. Very normal - in a positive way.
I don't know how long ago you saw that interview but one of the refreshing things about Al Gore for a while at least was that he DIDN'T think he was running for anything, so he could be himself - something someone actually running for office can't readily do. They're constantly on guard.

When Al thought he wasn't running, he grew a beard, got chubby, started talking about whatever the hell he wanted to talk about and generally made fun of his own "wooden" image. Which (in my opinion) made him a MUCH more appealing person. "Hey look, he's just like me!" (Well, except I'm not a millionaire!):D


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