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Brokedown German piece of CRAP!
Gawd(*&&^it!
 Got up this morning, got ready to work, started her up, pressed the button and.. Nothing. The coil winder - my livlihood - has failed. I'm out of commission for who knows how long. (I'll bet you though it was the car!!)  Yep, a motor in the coil winder has failed to operate. I'm workin like mad to figure out the problem. May require a new motor to be shipped on a slow-boat from Germany. Could be down for a week, maybe a couple weeks. In the meantime, looks like I get a nice vacation..
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Probably just needs brushes. Did you pull it yet?
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It's a Groschopp Motor From what I see, either the Nr. # or the WK # could be the model number. I've searched the Groschopp site, and can't find it. .. Inside this beast. The motor is connected to a Steinmeyer worm gear  The motor... 
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Ahh, stupid question. Whats a coil winder?
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06-08-2007, 02:40 AM
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Can you troubleshoot? Are you getting power to the motor?
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Check the relays. I see at least one in your pic.
Then again, sounds like you are making relays...or solenoids?
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If that is a servo motor and it is indeed bad, be prepared to bend over.
I would "guess" the motor was not neccesarily the problem. I would look into the controls first.
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06-08-2007, 05:51 AM
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I'm guessing it's for winding guitar pickup coils.
Groschopp has parts and repair capabilities in the US from what I see on their site. I would discount all other possibilities before purchasing anything.
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DC motors like to announce their demise. Sans smoke, smell or char I'd say it's upstream as well. I didn't know it was such a hardcore piece of machinery from your first post.
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06-08-2007, 06:08 AM
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Motors create a nasty inductive inrush on switch contacts. It's not a question of 'if' but 'when' the relay will fail.
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How old is the Flux Capacitor?
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I can even rewind a broken coil in the clock of a 911 that was recently posted about in the technical section.... I use it to wind electric guitar pickups using wire finer than the hair on your head - all day, every day. It has a motor which spins a bobbin or coilform. It has an automated mechanism to guide the wire, or I can guide it by hand leting the wire slip through my fingers. It has complete programmability, so I can tell each turn of wire where to lay. Sorth of like an extremely advanced Lathe. It is a complicated, expensive, $15,000 piece of German crap right now. 
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06-08-2007, 08:38 AM
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Cool machine.
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