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on-ramp 09-08-2007 02:48 PM

Fossett Fossilized - Who Cares?
 
I personally don't have any sympathy.

"Fossett is Fossilized" - what the news media doesn't have the guts to declare.

Just another billionaire with too much free time and so much money, doing stupid $****. Is anyone really surprised? Take high risks, sooner or later you will go down.

Another arrogant rich guy who thinks they impervious to disaster. the Superman complex.

tabs 09-08-2007 02:52 PM

Yeah..ON Ramp...tell it like it is and fk em to...

rcecale 09-08-2007 02:55 PM

When Fossett said he was going to do something, at least he showed up! :rolleyes:

Randy

Dottore 09-08-2007 03:28 PM

On-ramp - you are truly one loathsome f uck.

scottmandue 09-08-2007 03:37 PM

I wasn't sure who you were talking about so I googled the name.

Dunno, at least he did something worthwhile and exciting with his money... not like some rich guys who blow mountains of money filling warehouses with cars that sit and collect dust or collecting boats and houses that sit around empty and unused or throwing elaborate parties to surround themselves with celebrities.

Seems like a pretty cool dude.

the 09-08-2007 03:45 PM

off-ramp, the village called, they want their idiot back.

Normy 09-08-2007 04:23 PM

Steve Fossett took off in an aircraft that was properly designed, probably correctly fueled, and I'm certain that this very proficient pilot probably did a decent preflight inspection/weather check before he left.

He didn't file a flight plan. According to what I've read about this, he was going out "scouting" for dry lake beds on which to make a top-speed run upon. This doesn't imply any sort of aerobatics, but it does imply that he would be flying left, right, over here, over there...a flight that would be basically impossible to plot out for an FAA flight service follower.

-The Champion Decathlon aircraft that he was flying is literally a flying Lotus Elise. Only, this "Elise" makes a Hummer H1 look poorly built. This airplane is rated to fly at 6 g's, or 6 times the force of gravity continuously. That's the certification: in order to meet this certification, the company in Minnesota that built this plane had to prove that it could withstand 50% more than this, or 9 g's.

The airplane didn't "break". My theory is that the 6.0 liter four-cylinder engine that powers his plane had some sort of catastrophic failure, and he was forced to land. Did he survive the landing in rough terrain? You decide. A Decathlon can typically land in about 500 feet, and it isn't hard to find a 500 foot stretch of somewhat-flat terrain out there. I bet he landed the thing after the motor blew, and he's either trying to walk to a road or he hit a stump, flipped over, and was killed when a branch went through the cockpit...and him.

N!

Moses 09-08-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3468839)
Another arrogant rich guy who thinks they impervious to disaster. the Superman complex.

Dunno. Looks like the man had skills.

Following are some of Fossett's aviation accomplishments:

* 1998/2002: Long distance record for solo hot-air ballooning

* 2001/2002: Duration record for solo hot-air ballooning

* 2002: First solo balloon flight around the world

* 2005: First solo nonstop and non-refueled circumnavigation of the world in a single engine jet airplane

* 2002: One of aviation's highest awards: the Gold Medal of the Federation Aeronatutique Internationale

* 2004: fastest sailing circumnavigation of the world

* Ten of 21 Glider Open awards

on-ramp 09-08-2007 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3468942)
Dunno. Looks like the man had skills.

Following are some of Fossett's aviation accomplishments:

* 1998/2002: Long distance record for solo hot-air ballooning

* 2001/2002: Duration record for solo hot-air ballooning

* 2002: First solo balloon flight around the world

* 2005: First solo nonstop and non-refueled circumnavigation of the world in a single engine jet airplane

* 2002: One of aviation's highest awards: the Gold Medal of the Federation Aeronatutique Internationale

* 2004: fastest sailing circumnavigation of the world

* Ten of 21 Glider Open awards

these are all egotistical accomplishments. nothing to help people with his money, to put it plainly.

KNS 09-08-2007 04:52 PM

I believe he also competed in the 24 Hrs of Le Mans.

nostatic 09-08-2007 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3468951)
these are all egotistical accomplishments. nothing to help people with his money, to put it plainly.

And what to-date have you done for the world?

Moses 09-08-2007 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3468951)
these are all egotistical accomplishments. nothing to help people with his money, to put it plainly.

It's his money, right? Why is he obligated to "help people" with his wealth? He pays more in taxes each year than most of us earn in a lifetime. He founded Lakota Trading, the largest of the Chicago trading firms. Have any idea how many employees he had?

This man provided employment for thousands. Our society would be better off with more men like him, not fewer.

techweenie 09-08-2007 05:09 PM

Here goes the Steve Irwin thread all over again.

gprsh924 09-08-2007 05:09 PM

on-ramp I'm sure your new motorcycle is the safest, most economical choice. hope the risks you are about to be taking don't catch up to with you you little b*tch

on-ramp 09-08-2007 05:12 PM

tough crowd

nostatic 09-08-2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3468981)
tough crowd

when one posts moronic things, yes it is...

so what is it again that *you* have done for the world?

on-ramp 09-08-2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 3468992)
when one posts moronic things, yes it is...

so what is it again that *you* have done for the world?

I strongly disagree. I have just as much right to post an opinion as Mr Fossett has to burn thousands of gallons of jet fuel to pollute the atmosphere
SmileWavy

on-ramp 09-08-2007 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 3468992)
when one posts moronic things, yes it is...

so what is it again that *you* have done for the world?

NoStatus, this thread is not about me, so I don't need to prove anything

nostatic 09-08-2007 05:23 PM

you may have a "right" but that doesn't make it right.

If you have actually done something to make the world a better place, then maybe you have the cred to take the piss out of someone else. If you haven't (and craigslist pranks don't rise to helping humanity), then you're just a tiny little pusillanimous pussy footer hiding behind a keyboard.

So I'll ask a 3rd time. What have you done for the world?

Dan in Pasadena 09-08-2007 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3468839)
I personally don't have any sympathy. ...Another arrogant rich guy who thinks they impervious to disaster. the Superman complex.


Now, let's see...whaddya think people say when they hear that a guy driving a Porsche 911 gets in an accident and kills himself? Something EXACTLY like this? I hope not.

If he's dead, then that is a personal tragedy to him, his family and his associates. I would have hoped all of us have enough humantiy to understand that; apparently I'm wrong

I, for one do not have so much envy or anger over people more financially fortunate than I to wish him dead or gloat on a tragedy (if that's what has happened) like On-Cramp here. :rolleyes:

Geez dude, pretty loathsome.

cgarr 09-08-2007 05:35 PM

Thank God for rich guys, I yet to have a poor person come up to me and offer me a job. "arrogant"? don't think that has anything to do with being rich or poor? I have never met him so I don't know if he is really arrogant? have you?

onewhippedpuppy 09-08-2007 05:54 PM

Arrogant?! Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot. Dear God man, look in the damn mirror. You're the one with the audacity to look down upon everyone who eats meat. Or kills animals. Or steps on bugs. Fossett did things that nobody else thought were possible. Other than annoying a lot of people on the internet, what have you done worth remembering?

You have repeated shown yourself to be a bitter, resentful, disrespectful, and generally loathsome individual. There's many on here I disagree with, you're the first to make me consider the ignore function.

gprsh924 09-08-2007 05:59 PM

well said, +1

widgeon13 09-08-2007 06:10 PM

Couldn't agree more.

Rick Lee 09-08-2007 06:28 PM

On-ramp wins the toolbox award, probably for the entire year.

cool_chick 09-08-2007 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 3468878)
Dunno, at least he did something worthwhile and exciting with his money... not like some rich guys who blow mountains of money filling warehouses with cars that sit and collect dust or collecting boats and houses that sit around empty and unused or throwing elaborate parties to surround themselves with celebrities.

Seems like a pretty cool dude.


+1

Hope he makes it home safe.

Drew001 09-08-2007 06:39 PM

If you have Google Earth you can help search for his missing plane:
Click here

It's also on Slashdot here.

M.D. Holloway 09-08-2007 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3468951)
these are all egotistical accomplishments. nothing to help people with his money, to put it plainly.

Sense when did lots-o-money automatically mean you had to share?

I say bless his heart that he had the nuts and the brains to make a fortune and even more golf claps for a guy that lived life for a thrill instead of sitting around counting dividends!

cool_chick 09-08-2007 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew001 (Post 3469109)
If you have Google Earth you can help search for his missing plane:
Click here

It's also on Slashdot here.

I don't think Google Earth is live...isn't it like weeks to months old data?

Drew001 09-08-2007 07:07 PM

Of course it's not live, but...
Quote:

DigitalGlobe, one of Google's imaging partners, has acquired new high-resolution satellite imagery of the area where Fossett disappeared on Monday. The public can now go through this imagery and quickly flag any images that might contain Fossett's plane. Flagged images will receive further review by search and rescue experts.
When you download the .kml file and go to that area, the new images will load.

Someone has already found something interesting looking and reported it. Check out 38 29' 03.51" N 119 24' 21.64" W.

Moneyguy1 09-08-2007 07:14 PM

It is sad to see one human being with so little compassion for others. Says a lot about what is wrong with our society. I even sensed a bit of envy in the vitriol.

Feelings like that are best kept to one's self. "Better to stay silent and be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth ane erase all doubt".

cool_chick 09-08-2007 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew001 (Post 3469163)
Of course it's not live, but...


When you download the .kml file and go to that area, the new images will load.

Someone has already found something interesting looking and reported it. Check out 38 29' 03.51" N 119 24' 21.64" W.

Oh. duh.

Wouldn't it be cool if they found him this way? This could totally revolutionize rescue searches too.....

efhughes3 09-08-2007 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3468839)
I personally don't have any sympathy.

"Fossett is Fossilized" - what the news media doesn't have the guts to declare.

Just another billionaire with too much free time and so much money, doing stupid $****. Is anyone really surprised? Take high risks, sooner or later you will go down.

Another arrogant rich guy who thinks they impervious to disaster. the Superman complex.


Well, wouldn't you know it. I hadn't been in OT for months. So, I decide to check if anything has changed. Nope, first thing I read is a dumba$$ comment from some fool with no money. Why don't you take the time to read what he's done.

On the flip side, if that spirit in mankind to explore and stretch the envelope didn't exist, then maybe the "new world" wouldn't have been discovered, and we wouldn't have goons like you running around.

BTW, I've met Steve Fossett, he's none of what you describe.

ckissick 09-08-2007 07:27 PM

I heard on the radio today that searchers found 6 other long-lost plane wrecks, all with human remains. They all must have been egotistical bastards just out polluting the atmoshere, too.:rolleyes:

cool_chick 09-08-2007 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhughes3 (Post 3469187)

BTW, I've met Steve Fossett,...

You have? Oh, please share.....

96740 09-08-2007 07:34 PM

Quote:

I personally don't have any sympathy. ...Another arrogant rich guy who thinks they impervious to disaster. the Superman complex.
Got Issues? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/drink.gif

efhughes3 09-08-2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool_chick (Post 3469192)
You have? Oh, please share.....


Not much to share: San Diego Yacht Club a few years back. A pretty nice guy.

cool_chick 09-08-2007 07:49 PM

Very cool. Here's to hoping you meet him again. :) I haven't lost faith yet, anyway...

Dantilla 09-08-2007 08:33 PM

I admire guys who live life to the last drop.

Publicly or in obscurity, I'd rather truely enjoy life rather than complain about others that do.

rouxroux 09-08-2007 09:23 PM

Wow on-ramp, at first I thought you had intended your post to be some sarcastic joke. But maybe now I see your "true colors shining through". Takes me back to memorizing Donne's "Meditation XVII" in 3rd grade. I'm sorry you are so bitter.


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