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You really think the WH press sec. is the voice of the pres.? Some have been way more believeable than others who have served the same president. What changed?
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I don't get it Rick. You just said Clinton's PS's lied for him under his direction.

But more to the point, who does the PS speak for? Who tells him what to say?

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Old 11-21-2007, 09:45 AM
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...the real issue here is 5 WH officials conspiring to out an agent and then covered it up. Some of you will eat Crow for Thanksgiving. :-)
Exactly. Lying or not he was "just doing his job" and not the originator of what he said. Whether or not he is lying in his book bears looking into and I'll bet it will be.
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Hardflex, please elaborate on this conspiracy to out Plame and then tell me how Armitage was the fall guy who skated while Libby got indicted and convicted of something unrelated.

I believe most WH press secretaries have their talking points and they are either ok'ed by the POTUS or WH CoS. Honestly, I don't recall any WH press secretary knowingly lying, though it probably has happened occasionally. Their job is to spin, spin, spin. On rare occasion we have a POTUS who's far better a communicator than his press sec., i.e. Reagan and Clinton. Obviously, Bush is not much of a communicator, McClellan really sucked, Snow was pretty good and Perino is mediocre at best. Bottom line is that you will almost always hate the messenger if you hate the message, aka president and his views. Even when I liked Bush, I though McClellan sucked. And I always hated Clinton, though I thought McCurry was a star. Now, I'm so irate with Bush that there's really nothing any press sec. can say or do that will get my attention.
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Hardflex, please elaborate on this conspiracy to out Plame and then tell me how Armitage was the fall guy who skated while Libby got indicted and convicted of something unrelated.

I believe most WH press secretaries have their talking points and they are either ok'ed by the POTUS or WH CoS. Honestly, I don't recall any WH press secretary knowingly lying, though it probably has happened occasionally. Their job is to spin, spin, spin. On rare occasion we have a POTUS who's far better a communicator than his press sec., i.e. Reagan and Clinton. Obviously, Bush is not much of a communicator, McClellan really sucked, Snow was pretty good and Perino is mediocre at best. Bottom line is that you will almost always hate the messenger if you hate the message, aka president and his views. Even when I liked Bush, I though McClellan sucked. And I always hated Clinton, though I thought McCurry was a star. Now, I'm so irate with Bush that there's really nothing any press sec. can say or do that will get my attention.
That's a mighty big map you have there Rick. Safe driving!
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