Alternate fuel scam

[snowman]

Alternate fuels are the latest eco friendly scam. I just did a research project on the economics of alternate fuels. The results were totally amazing and downright jarring. There is NO alternate fuel that makes economic sense, NONE! Why are the auto companies and others advertising their amazing alternate fuel exploits? Just PR, nothing more.

Get this. economic analysis of alternate fuels has not been done, at least public ally to date!!! MIT has just put together a project to analyze the economics of alternate fuels, just now, after billions have been spent towards something that will never pan out!!! One of the preliminary conclusions is that even if a car, with equal performance, and everything else, and even triple the fuel economy of todays vehicles is made, it wil NEVER penetrate the market at over 50%. Even the most optimistic projections show that by 2035 over 75% of the cars on the road will be powered by gas or diesel.

Another amazing finding is that the policies of congress, designed to reduce the dependence on foreign fuel, have actually caused our dependence to increase from 5% in 1990 to over 12% today!!! Want to give our legislators even more say? I say woo boy, what have you done for me so far.

These are FACTS. Just do a search, limited to the last year on the subject. What you will find is not only disturbing, but downright depressing. Its a con game and we are being conned.

It seems that physics hasn't changed since the 70's, physics and mother nature is a b1tch!

[frogger]

All your hydrocarbon-based vehicles are belong to us.

[livi]

Coincidentally, I heard the same being debated on the radio today. Stunning. The mix of basic science and politics often seems to result in more politics than science.

[frogger]

Yep

[RoninLB]

tree huggers are aligning with oil companies etc etc to stop ethanol in gas.

big article in today's WSJ



ps: I could post a very big article if you can't find it on the web.................

[The Gaijin]

You can add industrial wind turbines and solar power (with current technology) to the list..

[kach22i]

Coconuts......................the real deal.

The Pelena Express vessel does have a propeller - but it's located inside a pipe inside the boat. A screen or trashrack stops logs & coconuts from hitting and damaging the propeller...................

Pelena Energy of Australia has developed technology for reliably operating diesel engines on coconut oil (CNO). It is planned that the vessel will be operating on a blend of diesel fuel and coconut oil in late 2006/early 2007, after business establishment, and later on pure coconut oil. The aim is to eliminate the copra processing in villages and instead produce oil directly at the village level. This will provide income for villagers and minimise the dependence of Solomon Islands on imported oil. Of course, the minimisation of Greenhouse-gas emissions are also significant.

[jyl]

If you would post some details of your data and findings, that would be more helpful than posting a rant with lots of exclamation marks.

[kach22i]

The real profit is in the by-products from the processing of oil into gasoline.

Most comparisions of bio-fuels I've seen neglect the by-product or co-products aspect of bio-fuels.

Apples to apples in any conversation would be best.

[rammstein]

Coconut oil?!?! Jeez- why didn't the professor think of this? They could have been back from Gilligan's crummy island in no time at all, AND they would have done it without giving money to those darn Arabs and their OPECs and all!

[notfarnow]

What about wood gas??

Millions of cars driving around with a bellyful of hot coals, what could possibly go wrong?










Ok, I admit it...

I want one.