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Tobra 03-26-2008 08:10 AM

I wonder if acid would work, would you have a bad trip? Probably not as fast as the lidocaine, anyway, and you would be worthless for the rest of the day, trippin'. Though I suppose with the migraine you can't do anything but sit in a dark room anyway.

peppy 03-26-2008 08:23 AM

My wife uses Maxalt for her migraines and finagrine for the nausea. It seams to work for her.

I think a big part of out growing the migraines is learning to anticipate them. If I feel the least bit of a headache come on I will take something for it. This has work for me.

widebody911 03-26-2008 08:31 AM

My g/f - who is a pharmacist - swears by Maxalt for her migraines. Hers also seem to be triggered by fluorescent lights.

svandamme 03-26-2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3850607)
I wonder if acid would work, would you have a bad trip? Probably not as fast as the lidocaine, anyway, and you would be worthless for the rest of the day, trippin'. Though I suppose with the migraine you can't do anything but sit in a dark room anyway.

ok, to debunk a few myths

a bad trip doesn't mean you'll be stuck in a trip for ever
it just means the trip (8-12 hours worth) would be a "difficult" experience, no fun, frightening...

Don't get me wrong, i'm not going to recommend jumping into acid just for the kicks of it... that's something for young folks who are still fearless..

But essentially , acid has proven to be very safe in terms of toxicity, and also in terms of after effects...

The major IF is , that folks with underlying psychological problems, might have things become very acute, during and after the experience... As would with other various substances (alcohol, uppers, downers, whatever)

Sane people, if taken proper precaution , who have a good set & setting, and sitter
should be able to handle it...and even if they have a bad trip, should be able to deal with it, with no permanent effects... at worst some mild post traumatic stress that fades over time...

But just a little fact, LSD was actually discovered while Albert Hoffman was looking for medicine that had beneficial effects towards the vascular system...

And it's closely related in chemical form to Psylocibin, the active ingredient of Shrooms.... Although it's massively more powerful, and that's the difficult part of dealing with it...

if you have migraines, you might consider shrooms, lsd however is not for the amateur...it's to wild to control, you can't predict doses or experiences... which you can with shrooms...

eating a couple of shrooms instead of a whole basket for instance , makes it controllable in terms of mild experience vs heavier experience, yet the beneficial effects on migraines should be noticeable with smaller doses too... there are many that claim it works really well that way, and you don't need to be tripping balls to find relief ... oh yeah, and it's not addictive, and has good effects weeks after the shroom are gone...

I don't have migraines myself, but anybody who at em or acid before can tell you, that there is no hangover , instead you have a reverse hangover, where you feel like a million bucks the weeks after you tripped, which further contradicts any claim that either would be addictive..

rfuerst911sc 03-26-2008 02:29 PM

From my earliest memories up thru age 16 my mom used to get horrific migraines. Over those years she went to several doctors that prescribed various drugs with minimal result. Then tried chiropractor minimal result. Finally doctors gave up and said it was a psychological problem and she went to a shrink. Yep you guessed it no result. Her migraines got to a point where we just put her in the car,drove to the local hospital and they would give her a shot to knock her out. This went on for years. Then our local newspaper had a story about a accupuncture office opening in our town, it was the first for our area ( small town ). My dad read the article and said what the heck we have nothing to lose. My mom went for eight treatments ( this was in the early 70's ) and up to her death 2 years ago she NEVER had another migraine!!! She would start getting a headache, take two aspirin and the headache would go away.............................just like a regular person. My moms life was sooooooo much better after the accupuncture you wouldn't believe. She went aprox. 36 years with no more migraines. I don't believe there is one magic cure out there but there might be one that's right for you. Don't give up and be open to try something different then just popping pills.

Superman 03-26-2008 02:48 PM

I'm fifty, and have had occasional migraine episodes virtually all my life. Perhaps a few times per year. I don't get much of a headache, though. It starts as a swirly, flashy part of my vision. I get a certain 'feeling' also, so there's no mistaking the onset. I know what's going to happen shortly. The swirly, flashy thing grows and over perhaps ten minutes it covers my vision. I cannot see. Then perhaps twenty minutes later, it goes away. When it does, I am left with a dull headache that is not debilitating. It has always happened this way. Always this way.

I have a sister who suffers from the full blown variety. She has tried many things. She takes medications as soon as she senses one starting. If that does not work, she has other medications. Some fairly serious ones. If they don't work, then her headache becomes so severe that she's nearly uncommunicative. If all fails, and she's in this kind of pain, she might go the ER. Because of the seriousness of the drugs she needs at that point, she has a note from her doctor that starts out "If you are reading this..........." The hope is that the ER physician is alerted that a couple of aspirin....followed by a codeine Tylenol an hour later.....followed by.......is useless. If my sister goes into the ER with one of these migraines, it's time to shut the brain down.

Tobra 03-26-2008 02:57 PM

Supes, I don't think what you are describing is technically a migraine.

Wonder what will happen to all those people who get migraines from fluorescent lights when it is illegal to buy any thing but fluirescent.

Normy 03-26-2008 04:14 PM

I wonder how many of you are actually experiencing "migraines", which affect your brain and cause blind spots in your vision and prevent you from speaking....andhow many of you just have tension headaches?

Think-

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pwd72s 03-26-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3851481)
Supes, I don't think what you are describing is technically a migraine.

Wonder what will happen to all those people who get migraines from fluorescent lights when it is illegal to buy any thing but fluorescent.

Me too...flickering fluorescents are guaranteed to send Cindy to a darkened room if she spends any time under them at all. What's funny is that the tubes with "green" on both ends, lower wattage, seem to bother her more than the old style fluorescents. I'm no lighting expert, but maybe it has something to do with the gasses used, or the amount of gasses used????

Alas, politicians seldom think things through. Like Oregon now having 10% ethanol in all pump gas sold...despite the growing evidence that it harms the environment more than it helps.

Back to the fluorescent thing...if that happens here we may have to revert to kerosene lamps. I'm NOT kidding.

rbuswell 03-26-2008 08:42 PM

Needles do the trick
 
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Originally Posted by mossguy (Post 3849569)
My family doc has had regular migraines, tried acupuncture from a colleague. She reports great relief and greatly reduced frequency and severity.

Tom

I used to have excruciating migraines for years until I started going to an acupuncturist (traditional Chinese). I almost never have them now. I still get mild sinus headaches from time to time but those of you who know a real migraine know that a sinus headache doesn't even come close.

mca 09-17-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rammstein (Post 3850110)
For me, they are luckily on the rare side- I will go for months with none. Unfortunately, now and then I will have a bad few days, and I have never been able to identify a trigger, be it food, stress, weather, or anything else.

For me, the magic bullet is Maxalt (similar to Imitrex) and some dark quiet time. Interesting thing is, you have to get the Maxalt in you early- like at the first twinge of a migraine. Every 5 minutes that goes by adds literally 20 minutes to the time it takes the Maxalt to work. If I am out and a migraine hits and I don't take anything for like 40 minutes or more, it will not work at all. Hence, the permanent addition of a maxalt pouch to my wallet.

Sensory deprivation helps while waiting for the med to work. Gentle white noise, total darkness, and slightly cold temps seem to ease things.

I saw a neurologist who studied my MRI (3 weeks ago) and determined that I am experiencing migraines.

In the past, I have vomited on two occasions while having a horrific headache. The only problem is that I am not sure the pain caused the vomiting or the fact that I had squirted Afrin up my nose and the drip down the back of my throat made me puke.

I still believe that I am getting tension/sinus headaches and not true migraines. I stopped taking my nasal steroid (flonase - apparently the preservatives can trigger headaches) and haven't had a headache since ... until today.

I woke up with moderate pain. It wasn't crippling. I came to work but felt dizzy, tired and had to squint when in bright lights. Feels like someone is pulling my eyeballs into my skull. Picked up some Excedrin Migraine ... helped slightly.

Right now I have samples of Maxalt. I am honestly scared to take it due to the possible side effects - throat swelling, bloody poops, etc. That being said, I am willing to try it. I know that it is important to get it in my system at the first onset of a migraine.

But how do I know the difference between a regular headache and a migraine? Do I just take it any time I feel any sort of headache?

ramonesfreak 09-17-2009 02:53 PM

get them almost daily. have severe visual disturbances, inability to focus left eye etc.... remedy is OTC pain meds and jack daniels with ice and an ice bag on my head

john walker's workshop 09-17-2009 03:10 PM

my ex business partner got cluster headaches. pretty serious stuff. he kept an oxygen bottle and face mask in his car and at home. a few minutes of deep breathing and it was gone. may not work with migraines, but worth a shot.

Looking_for_911 09-17-2009 03:12 PM

It's rare that I get one now, but when I do, they hang on for a long time. The last one was last week. Nasty thing that lasted three days!
I take blood pressure meds because I've let my weight slip up again, and I had taken them as directed, but still got the migraine.
I tried over the counter stuff to no avail. I tried a Lortab, nothing helped.
I rembered that I had asked my mother if she had any pain meds one day 'cause I had left mine at home. She gave me a couple and also gave me a couple others that I dropped in my bottle. I forgot about the little blue ones and left them there a few weeks.
On the third day of this head ache I remembered the tablets that mom had given me and out of desperation decided to take one of the blue ones thinking they were the pain med.
I got really relaxed, a bit loopy maybe, but in a couple hours the headache started to subside, then was gone.
I called her and asked what they were -- I was gonna ask my doc for some!
She reminded me that she had given me a couple of her Valium! It did the trick!
I've taken them before, years ago when I was married :-( but never really remembered them working on a headache.

vmisquez 09-17-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 3850549)
shrooms

or if you like military grade solutions... lsd

What about hookers and blow!!!

s_morrison57 09-17-2009 03:57 PM

Tobra
Where do you get this lidocane, is it over the counter? I don't suffer from any form of headache in a normal sense but when I was working in Chille we were at about 17,000 ft. with the drill and camp was at about 15,500' and we used to get these massive pounding headaches from the thin air and they sold a pill that I'm sure was just like our tylenal and it would just take the headache away, like gone in 10-15 min. My sister suffers big time from migraines and I gave her some to try, she can feel them coming on so the first time I gave her a couple and checked back in about 3/4 of an hour, she had completly forgot she had a head ache. I was going to ask my uncle what was in these things, he's retired now but was the Dean of the Faculty of Pharma Science at a major university here in Canada, but I don't think his spanish is up to it. I wanted to start making them and selling them, get into the drug business
Tobra if your interested I can give you the spanish ingrediants for these pills, there might be something there that might help some suffers

Nostril Cheese 09-17-2009 04:16 PM

Marijuana works quite well.

red-beard 09-17-2009 05:06 PM

I had my first "visual" migraine last October. I'm pretty sure it was stress related. It started as light, then expanded across my vision with "scintillation" at the edges of the field. And for a while afterwards, I was partially blind. Imitrex seemed to cure it. I didn't have much of a headache with it.

I do get headaches, once in a while, but no nausea or visual issues. I have taken the Imitrex with a bad headache and it stopped it dead. My mother used to get Migraines. Worst I've even seen was a friend in NY, who kept injectible Imitrex with her at all times.

Schumi 09-17-2009 05:31 PM

Last time I checked, I didn't carry a purse, and have never suffered from migraines...


Unless you call those headaches after a night of drinking 'migraines'... then yea, sign me up.

Looking_for_911 09-17-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 3851791)
Me too...flickering fluorescents are guaranteed to send Cindy to a darkened room if she spends any time under them at all. What's funny is that the tubes with "green" on both ends, lower wattage, seem to bother her more than the old style fluorescents. I'm no lighting expert, but maybe it has something to do with the gasses used, or the amount of gasses used????

Alas, politicians seldom think things through. Like Oregon now having 10% ethanol in all pump gas sold...despite the growing evidence that it harms the environment more than it helps.

Back to the fluorescent thing...if that happens here we may have to revert to kerosene lamps. I'm NOT kidding.



I've wondered if the flourescent color balance of artificial light could cause many of the cases of migraines.
Flourescents emit a light that is green, look at your photos if they haven't been color corrected. You add magenta to get rid of it. Could this color shift - away from daylight balanced light - put some strain on the eyes/brain, etc?
Hmmmm.


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