Excellence: 911 SC Undervalued

[Superman]

Cabs can easily be found in my area, along with Targas. Coupes are considerably more rare.

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I honestly do think the mid-year cars ('74 in particular) are the next to see increases.

Or so I keep telling myself. . .

Are you serious or kinda kidding? I really like the narrow body mid-years, but I think the market will skip them and go for SCs... people are still spooked by 2.7s.

The SCs have a reputation of being bulletproof, plus their styling is a bit more modern. Being in 25 year old SC, you don't feel like you're in an "old" car, whereas a mid-year looks and feels just a bit more dated.

but what do I know, I don't even own one. Heck, I'd trade my nanny for a 912e with a 1500cc VW single port

[Palum6o]

I just got my issue and read the article. Hmmm, to me this is just more fluff for the magazine... It really comes down to common sense.

[JBO]

Superman - your car is minimum a $15k car, and any insurance company that says it is an under $10k car doesn't know what they are doing. I have State Farm, and though not cheap, they will do a stated value policy for your desired amount, as long as it is within reason. Heck, if you wanted a $20k figure you could copy and send them the excellence article, and that might be enough for them.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Trust me as someone who's been down this road with an insurance company on a total loss claim - this is just a B.S. game by the insurance company.

I would (and will) NEVER take anything other than a mutually agreed-upon, stated-value policy. If your insurer doesn't offer one, go elsewhere. I ain't kidding.

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I would (and will) NEVER take anything other than a mutually agreed-upon, stated-value policy. If your insurer doesn't offer one, go elsewhere. I ain't kidding.

That's what I have with A.I.G.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally Posted by notfarnow

Are you serious or kinda kidding? I really like the narrow body mid-years, but I think the market will skip them and go for SCs... people are still spooked by 2.7s.

The SCs have a reputation of being bulletproof, plus their styling is a bit more modern. Being in 25 year old SC, you don't feel like you're in an "old" car, whereas a mid-year looks and feels just a bit more dated.

but what do I know, I don't even own one. Heck, I'd trade my nanny for a 912e with a 1500cc VW single port

Somewhat serious. . .

It's precisely the "older" aspects of the mid-years (particularly the '74) that appeal to me. The '74 car is a very important "bridge" year because it describes the transition from the early cars to the later 911s very well. Honestly a lot of the late 70s cars through the late 80s all kinda' look the same. Especially the SCs. It's nice to know how they came to look/evolve that way starting with an early 911 which is remarkably different from an SC or other 80s-era 911.

The chrome bits (headlight surrounds, door handles, trim, etc.) are throwbacks to the more classic/early models but the styling is more forward towards what would become the "classic" 911.

I dunno. The longer I have my 911 the more I like the fact it's a mid-year and not an SC. I realize the 3.0 and 3.2 engines are perhaps more noted for longevity, but when you get right down to it, a 2.7 that's well-kept with case-savers and other amenities is a pretty damn good engine too. They rev quickly, are light and produce a pretty nice amount of power. I'm not a 2.7 hater, much as some are put off by them. You just have to know/understand their limits and operate within them. And figure that an original one will probably need a rebuild if it hasn't had one already (but the same could be said of pretty much any 3.0 or 3.2 out there at this point. . .)

The smog-check exemption is pretty nice too.

[Hetmann]

I wouldn't take less than $20K for my SC, so I guess I won't be selling anytime soon. But its also a 30 year old daily driver during good weather. My insurance (State Farm) costs me less than $400 a year. I'd rather keep and invest the cash instead of paying higher stated value premiums. If I sustain a loss, I'll have to settle for whatever I can get. So let's just say I'm partially self insuring to get the lower premiums.

There are so many choices for sports and sporty cars any more and I think the cars we dearly love are not so coveted or even relevant to the younger drivers.

[Seric]

Further reading down the list, they author lists the European 964 RS as another one. I wasn't surprised by this, but when they mentioned in that blurb did. They mentioned the 964 Carrera Cup USA as just a stripped down C2, which it is not.

[JR_NYC]

Originally Posted by Seric

Further reading down the list, they author lists the European 964 RS as another one. I wasn't surprised by this, but when they mentioned in that blurb did. They mentioned the 964 Carrera Cup USA as just a stripped down C2, which it is not.

You should write a letter to the editor.

[Seric]

Originally Posted by JR_NYC

You should write a letter to the editor.

I did actually

[JR_NYC]

I hoped you didn't think I was being a smart ass. They'll probably publish the correction.

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

Somewhat serious. . .

It's precisely the "older" aspects of the mid-years (particularly the '74) that appeal to me. The '74 car is a very important "bridge" year because it describes the transition from the early cars to the later 911s very well. Honestly a lot of the late 70s cars through the late 80s all kinda' look the same. Especially the SCs. It's nice to know how they came to look/evolve that way starting with an early 911 which is remarkably different from an SC or other 80s-era 911.

The chrome bits (headlight surrounds, door handles, trim, etc.) are throwbacks to the more classic/early models but the styling is more forward towards what would become the "classic" 911.

I dunno. The longer I have my 911 the more I like the fact it's a mid-year and not an SC. I realize the 3.0 and 3.2 engines are perhaps more noted for longevity, but when you get right down to it, a 2.7 that's well-kept with case-savers and other amenities is a pretty damn good engine too. They rev quickly, are light and produce a pretty nice amount of power. I'm not a 2.7 hater, much as some are put off by them. You just have to know/understand their limits and operate within them. And figure that an original one will probably need a rebuild if it hasn't had one already (but the same could be said of pretty much any 3.0 or 3.2 out there at this point. . .)

The smog-check exemption is pretty nice too.

Yup, yup, yup. I agree with Jeff wholeheartedly on this. The mid year cars will eventually go up in price; just look at 914's recently. I thought they'd never appreciate even a bit. And it is partially because of the fact that there are so few mid years that have not been "upgraded", flared, etc that they will have improved value. I make no claim that they will ever be priced near early 911 prices but I do think they will appreciate considerably from where they generally are now. In fact I SEEM to be seeing that now, though my observations are anecdotal, not from any real study. As for 2.7's, their "issues" to me is really little different than the many known problems with other era engines. SC's had Dilavar studs that broke, Carrera's had valve guide issues, 964's had dual mass flywheel and dual distributor belts that broke, 993's had OBD-II issues. And as Jeff pointed out, many, many of the mid year cars (the youngest being now 31 years old!) have already been rebuilt. I'm not holding on to mine as an investment but I do think it will go up eventually.

[mikester]

Take my SC - PLEASE!

[relayswitcher]

Dump whatever insurance co. you have and go to AAA INSURANCE. They now offer a separate Classic Car insurance. I have my 76 911S Targa ( with an '83 3.0 SC motor) insured for 22k no problem. DOn't know what state your in but for CA the cost is very low. Relayswitcher

[Seric]

Originally Posted by JR_NYC

I hoped you didn't think I was being a smart ass.

No, not at all.

[beasty]

the prices are rediculous.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Can any CIS/WUR car really be undervalued?

[wcc]

I just picked up a '78 SC. So obviously I'm hoping the values go up but I'm not counting on it. Even tho the one I got is in GREAT shape cosmetically and mechanically the mileage will be the major factor on it's value.

[Palum6o]

Even if you lose a few grand... does it really matter? Just drive it and have fun with it. If you love it, it will love you back.