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m21sniper 06-19-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 4012429)
For Charles Barkley, there is no question about it.

I would like to see Tiger stand in the lane and try to take a Barkley charge (in his prime, of course).

Tiger might never get up.

Tobra 06-19-2008 11:44 AM

You are funny, and kinda slow, I could run 50 yards almost a whole second faster than that before I got old.

You never answered my question about hand/eye coordination

m21sniper 06-19-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 4012435)
You are funny...

I'm glad you're enjoying my commentary. :D

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 4012435)
and kinda slow, I could run 50 yards almost a whole second faster than that before I got old.

Anything in the low 5s is blazing. NFL receiver fast. You missed your calling perhaps. ;)

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 4012435)
You never answered my question about hand/eye coordination

I never saw your question about hand/eye coordination.

Hand eye, as in a golfer hitting an immoble object on a purty little tee?

Personally, i suspect Video games are everybit as demanding in that sense, and people who play video games aren't athletes either. ;)

the 06-19-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4012378)

At any rate- Golf is not a sport, nor are the players athletes due to playing it any more than badmitton players are athletes.

Badminton players aren't athletes? You've got a pretty narrow definition of "athlete" to exclude these guys.

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m21sniper 06-19-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 4012451)
Badminton players aren't athletes? You've got a pretty narrow definition of "athlete" to exclude these guys.

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I stand humbly corrected. THOSE badmitton players are athletes.

Never let it be said i won't admit it when i'm wrong. ;)

Touche' my friend.

(LOL, that video is great! I could actually watch that on TV for a while i think.)

the 06-19-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4012467)
I stand humbly corrected. THOSE badmitton players are athletes.

Never let it be said i won't admit it when i'm wrong. ;)

Touche' my friend.

(LOL, that video is great! I could actually watch that on TV for a while i think.)

I should get some kind of Interwebs Medal of Achievement! lol

m21sniper 06-19-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 4012496)
I should get some kind of Interwebs Medal of Achievement! lol

You's just a persuasive SOB bro. :)

nostatic 06-19-2008 12:27 PM

no, you're just incredibly wrong a lot :p

cmccuist 06-19-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 4012451)
Badminton players aren't athletes? You've got a pretty narrow definition of "athlete" to exclude these guys.

That looks like badminton's version of the rope-a-dope. The one team has hammering away while the other team just volley'd it back until the hammering team was exhausted.

5axis 06-19-2008 12:42 PM

Tigers cool and all, and his tallent is impressive but Golf just does not do it for me. I guess it is the total lack of risk. If you make a huge mistake, your probably not gonna die, maybe sunburn?
Sadly this season I can think of 3 motorcycle road racing deaths off the top of my head, at the club racing level. This one really sucked, a up and coming 13 yr. old
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=32553

So I guess I expect courage to figure in the equation somewhere. A wide out crossing the middle, or a 13yr old racing a 125, both know it might really, really hurt and do it anyway.

TerryH 06-19-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 4010244)
They are still around, look at Sergio spitting in the cup when he picked up his ball, Woody is a character, Rocco, Daley, Phil, Sabatinni, lots of people to watch.
I think when Tiger came on it woke the other players up, it seemed like they were in a trance, weren't working as hard as they are now.

It's my own fault for not watching as much TV golf. I don't play as often as in the past and have lost interest. The older players didn't seem quite as robotic. I can't get into the heads of todays players like I thought I could with the short list below....

Palmer, Nicklaus, Trevino, Crenshaw, Watson, Weiskopf, Stadler, Couples, Player, Stewart and others of their ilk.

Tobra 06-19-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4012441)
...
I never saw your question about hand/eye coordination.

Hand eye, as in a golfer hitting an immoble object on a purty little tee?

Personally, i suspect Video games are everybit as demanding in that sense, and people who play video games aren't athletes either. ;)

no, hand eye coordination like bouncing a golf ball on a pitching wedge for a few minutes, popping it up, hitting it out of mid air and out of sight, one page back, same post you took the John Kruk comment from

scottmandue 06-19-2008 03:49 PM

These guys play four rounds of eighteen holes right?

That is an awful lot of walking and swinging clubs, I know after nine holes I'm ready to get back to the club for a cold one. :)

RE: The Tiger commercial where he bounces that ball off the face of the club then hits it mid air. Does anyone know if that is for real? It seems hard to believe even Tiger could pull that one off.

Tobra 06-19-2008 03:56 PM

That is for real, he was goofing around waiting for them to set up a shot, someone saw it and asked how long he could do that, so he showed them and they made a commercial out of him playing around.

ckissick 06-19-2008 04:12 PM

Another time when he was hitting balls for a commercial, they told him to hit one of the cameras that was sitting about 100 or more feet away. He did. Broke the lens.

Seric 06-19-2008 04:13 PM

Are you kidding me? Golf is one of the hardest freakin' things on the planet to do well. I know a lot of people who play Golf, but none of them can "play" golf. I am decent at it, but it takes a lot of practice and training mentally and physically to achieve what these guys do.

In fact I think I've only seen one "fat' pro, John Daly. He has so much natural talent, that he didn't need to take care of himself. I remember seeing him with the shakes holding a soda on the 18th green as he was withdrawing from alcohol abuse. He didn't last long in that kind of shape. I heard an interview with him on NPR not long ago and he mentioned an exchange he had with Tiger Woods. He said something to Tiger about him always working out and practicing and Tiger replied with, "Well John, we all don't have the talent you have."

Tell me my aching arms and legs that Golf isn't a sport with physical demands. Just because you don't have to run a thousand miles an hour and slam into people, doesn't make it any less of a sport.

Wickd89 06-19-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Seric (Post 4012965)
Are you kidding me? Golf is one of the hardest freakin' things on the planet to do well. I know a lot of people who play Golf, but none of them can "play" golf. I am decent at it, but it takes a lot of practice and training mentally and physically to achieve what these guys do.

In fact I think I've only seen one "fat' pro, John Daly. He has so much natural talent, that he didn't need to take care of himself. I remember seeing him with the shakes holding a soda on the 18th green as he was withdrawing from alcohol abuse. He didn't last long in that kind of shape. I heard an interview with him on NPR not long ago and he mentioned an exchange he had with Tiger Woods. He said something to Tiger about him always working out and practicing and Tiger replied with, "Well John, we all don't have the talent you have."

Tell me my aching arms and legs that Golf isn't a sport with physical demands. Just because you don't have to run a thousand miles an hour and slam into people, doesn't make it any less of a sport.

+1

Millions try it, and nearly everyone suck at it. We all try to get better, but we know that it is incredibly tough to get half way decent. Even most of the people that say they are pretty good, suck.
To get to Tiger's level (mentally, physically, and skills-wise) is so tough.
If we spent the same time practicing as he had, I really do not think we would at his level; he is unique.

If you do not get golf, sorry but it is a great game; if not the greatest.

billwagnon 06-20-2008 12:12 AM

From America's Finest Sports News Source

June 19, 2008
Man Who Used Stick To Roll Ball Into Hole In Ground Praised For His Courage


SAN DIEGO—A man who used several different bent sticks to hit a ball to an area comprised of very short grass surrounding a hole in the ground was praised for his courage Monday after he used a somewhat smaller stick to gently roll the ball into the aforementioned hole in fewer attempts than his competitors. "What guts, what confidence," ESPN commentator Scott Van Pelt said of the man, who was evidently unable to carry his sticks himself, employing someone else to hold the sticks and manipulate the flag sticking out of the hole in the ground while he rolled the ball into it. "You have to be so brave, so self-assured, so strong mentally to [roll a ball into a hole in the ground]. Amazing." The man in question apparently hurt his knee during this activity.

m21sniper 06-20-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 4012886)
no, hand eye coordination like bouncing a golf ball on a pitching wedge for a few minutes, popping it up, hitting it out of mid air and out of sight, one page back, same post you took the John Kruk comment from

What, like hackey-sack?

Hehe, great post Bill.

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4012539)
no, you're just incredibly wrong a lot :p

Well i often end up on the side opposite Dottore's and your own views.

I'm not so sure that makes me wrong. ;)

Tobra 06-20-2008 03:22 PM

If you are opposite Dotty, you might not be right, but you can bet he is wrong.


Yeah, sort of like hacky sack, only it is a bit harder to bounce a golf ball on a pitching wedge than it is to bounce a bean bag on your foot.


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