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t951 07-16-2008 05:54 AM

Snowman banned!

And there was much rejoicing!

Porsche_monkey 07-16-2008 06:03 AM

So I have to phone him at home to get the 'Reloader Report'?

Todd and Wayne have been patient. Very patient. Kudo's to you both.

berettafan 07-16-2008 06:13 AM

Agree that posting distributor cost on parts is not cool. It's a free market, shop where you want. Posting up costs for all the world does nothing but encourage the propogation of wal-mart type retailers and we do NOT need more of that. Our choices are slowly dwindling to nothing and once there is but one king retailer we will have no choice at all (not just price but also selection!!!). Big picture was missing for snowman.

Also believe some of you guys are completely off your rockers to post up personal information you've dug up on the guy. That stuff should be off limits no matter what.

KFC911 07-16-2008 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 4063675)
....post up personal information you've dug up on the guy. That stuff should be off limits no matter what.

As much as Snowflake asked for it with his long running RE bs (thus triggering the responses with personal info, address, etc.) I'm inclined to agree.

Seahawk 07-16-2008 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 4063356)
He is purposely comparing apples to oranges in an attempt to irritate me. It's clear that Jack has nothing better to do with his life than pontificate on my forums and attempt to post false and misleading information with the only goal to hurt the business that supports these forums.

I was frankly astonished...this website is an adjunct to your business, an important part of your successful business.
It was almost as if he wanted to be banned:(

jyl 07-16-2008 06:45 AM

He made so many claims about his house's location and valuation, that its location and valuation became a fair topic.

Other than that, I don't think any personal info was posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 4063675)
Also believe some of you guys are completely off your rockers to post up personal information you've dug up on the guy. That stuff should be off limits no matter what.


t951 07-16-2008 06:45 AM

Ok, stupid question...and I am sure the answer is somewhere...

So, if you are banned how does that stop a person? Couldn't they just create a new account with a new name and start anew? If you block IP's then they could easily get around that....so I don't understand this.

legion 07-16-2008 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t951 (Post 4063726)
Ok, stupid question...and I am sure the answer is somewhere...

So, if you are banned how does that stop a person? Couldn't they just create a new account with a new name and start anew? If you block IP's then they could easily get around that....so I don't understand this.

I don't know if you are familiar with Alina, but she (he) did just that. I think she (he) got banned about a dozen times over 18 months. By the end, she (he) was getting banned after 1 or 2 posts. Every troll has their pattern (what they get off on), the pattern becomes recognizable and they stop getting very far.

cashflyer 07-16-2008 06:54 AM

I don't know snowman, and I don't like most of his posts.... but this is bullsnit, Wayne.

The forum supports your business, and Jack should never have posted a competitors invoice. Fine, ban him. I agree that you are justified.

Now go back and ban every one of the people who responded to the thread with a personal attack - which allegedly is also against your rules.

Ban those who mock him for not living in an expensive enough home. What the hell does that have to do with anything, other than being a personal attack???

And ban those who posted his home phone number; or do you now allow your forum to be a means of encouraging hate calls to people?


Oh... and kudos to you for calling him out with IMC. Revenge is an excellent way of showing that you are the better man.

stomachmonkey 07-16-2008 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 4063675)
Also believe some of you guys are completely off your rockers to post up personal information you've dug up on the guy. That stuff should be off limits no matter what.

That's why I only posted the shot I did.

No other info although I had it all.

And honestly he is the one that posted enough personal identifying info to allow himself to be easily found.

He might as well have posted his name address and phone number himself.

Porsche_monkey 07-16-2008 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 4063742)
I don't know snowman, and I don't like most of his posts.... but this is bullsnit, Wayne.

The forum supports your business, and Jack should never have posted a competitors invoice. Fine, ban him. I agree that you are justified.

Now go back and ban every one of the people who responded to the thread with a personal attack - which allegedly is also against your rules.

Ban those who mock him for not living in an expensive enough home. What the hell does that have to do with anything, other than being a personal attack???

And ban those who posted his home phone number; or do you now allow your forum to be a means of encouraging hate calls to people?


Oh... and kudos to you for calling him out with IMC. Revenge is an excellent way of showing that you are the better man.

I disagree. Snowman wasn't banned for any one thing, it's cumulative. The personal stuff might have been wrong, but it's one off. Maybe it deserves a warning, no one gets banned for a one-off error in judgment.

Snowboy just kept pushing, he got what he deserved.

Jims5543 07-16-2008 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 4063742)
I don't know snowman, and I don't like most of his posts.... but this is bullsnit, Wayne.

The forum supports your business, and Jack should never have posted a competitors invoice. Fine, ban him. I agree that you are justified.

Now go back and ban every one of the people who responded to the thread with a personal attack - which allegedly is also against your rules.

Ban those who mock him for not living in an expensive enough home. What the hell does that have to do with anything, other than being a personal attack???

And ban those who posted his home phone number; or do you now allow your forum to be a means of encouraging hate calls to people?


Oh... and kudos to you for calling him out with IMC. Revenge is an excellent way of showing that you are the better man.


...

kstar 07-16-2008 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4063504)
I've uncovered a whole lot of interesting information about our dearly departed friend - amazing what a few google searches will turn up these days. . . Let your fingers do the walking.

I also found some stuff, probably the same stuff you did, that shows Jack was not all he claimed.

I just left it alone.

Jack did it to himself and got what he deserved, IMO.

Best,

Jims5543 07-16-2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche_monkey (Post 4063753)
I disagree. Snowman wasn't banned for any one thing, it's cumulative. The personal stuff might have been wrong, but it's one off. Maybe it deserves a warning, no one gets banned for a one-off error in judgment.

Snowboy just kept pushing, he got what he deserved.

Go back and reread Cashflyers post, he agrees with the banning. Its the poor behavior of the other members and the personal attacks, and disclosing personal information, following his idiotic post that warrants action and I agree.

Porsche_monkey 07-16-2008 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cesiro (Post 4063762)
Go back and reread Cashflyers post, he agrees with the banning. Its the poor behavior of the other members and the personal attacks, and disclosing personal information, following his idiotic post that warrants action and I agree.

I agree, my point was that those people should be warned, not banned.

sammyg2 07-16-2008 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4063627)
Does this mean that sanity will return to my RE thread? ;)

There's one more troll that would have to get sent to the island before that happens.

Danimal16 07-16-2008 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4063644)
Right wing wackos are out when they touch the 3rd rail known as the pocketbook.

The rules have been clarified.;)

Kach,
We may disagree on some things from time to time, this is not one of those times. That 3rd rail will sting, expecially if your standing in a bucket of water.

legion 07-16-2008 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4063803)
There's one more troll that would have to get sent to the island before that happens.

Wayne? ;)

Joeaksa 07-16-2008 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 4063540)
Good riddance. Now Snowman can go back full time to reloading cartridges. I had never seen someone so obnoxious, arrogant and ignorant all at the same time.
(And I am french, that should mean something...)

Aurel

Hmmm, should we wait for the explosion that will eventually occur and the mushroom cloud coming up from his neighbourhood?

Guess I am not getting that reloading press after all now... :(

Steve Carlton 07-16-2008 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4063815)
Wayne? ;)

Empty out your desk.


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