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stomachmonkey 12-04-2008 08:26 PM

Coyotes
 
Was outside on the phone just before when I see a dog start to wander up the neighbors driveway across the street.

Hey, that's a Coyote!

So I start down my driveway for a closer look.

Bad idea. Little fucher turns on me and chases me back into my garage and then takes off down the street.

I am ashamed to admit it but I screamed like a girl.

Shawn 357 12-04-2008 08:37 PM

I got chased by two coyotes once. I wouldn't have believed it except that I was the one running. Any time I had seen a coyote before this they were very skittish and would avoid being around people as much as possible. The funny thing was that I was on the phone with my girlfriend (Wife now) and she heard me yell at the coyotes when they started my way and then heard as I frantically ran into the house screaming like a school girl....you can tell my Wife is cool because she omits the screaming part when the story is told:)

Rick Lee 12-04-2008 08:49 PM

I see dead coyotes by the side of the road about once a week.

HardDrive 12-04-2008 08:51 PM

Walking through the dark, winter woods in Michigan with my deer rifle on my way back to camp from deer hunting. The yotes are just a few hundred yards out, making locator calls to each other that 'something' is passing by. Some how the fact that I have a loaded rifle doesn't keep it from weirding me out......

Tobra 12-04-2008 08:54 PM

coyotes are some tough little suckers, if they were chasing you, they either had pups they were protecting, were starving, or both

ruf-porsche 12-04-2008 08:58 PM

A coyote was found in a restaurant in Chicago, made all the local news.

nostatic 12-04-2008 09:02 PM

you should have used a motorcycle on him

krichard 12-04-2008 09:02 PM

hear them every night on the property next to ours. It's a 33 acre tract that is not cleared and has a huge hill on it. If they make their way to my property it's on! I don't want to find out what happens when coyotes and my dogs mix.

stomachmonkey 12-04-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4341194)
you should have used a motorcycle on him

No thanks, I saw how that worked out for you.SmileWavy

Happy that you won that one.

Hugh R 12-04-2008 09:09 PM

I have two or three dens of them around me. When I bought my current house they would test the chain link fence while my dogs were barking like crazy on the other side of the fence. The coyote just ignored my dogs yapping and kept testing the fence. I found the head of a deer in my yard once, just the head. I lost a very large dog (huskie and st. bernard) that just disappeared. Had another large dog that got surrounded by coyotes and they clipped his Achilles tendon trying to hobble him. I intervened and pulled my dog inside. True survivors.

9dreizig 12-04-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 4341182)
coyotes are some tough little suckers, if they were chasing you, they either had pups they were protecting, were starving, or both

Or rabid,,
Saw one a few weeks ago in my neighborhood.. had to go out and walk the dog when I got home, you can bet the baretta was in my front pocket,, saw him again but heading away from me,, Just hanging out looking for some cats to eat I guess...

Pazuzu 12-04-2008 09:24 PM

I never had issues with coyotes in AZ...but I was once chased 1/4 mile down a country road, in the dark...by a VERY angry badger.

I'd take a pack of coyotes any day over that thing.

Moses 12-04-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4341194)
you should have used a motorcycle on him

:d

pwd72s 12-04-2008 10:40 PM

Not many coyotes in my area...do you think sheep ranchers packing mini-14's could have anything to do with that?

varmint 12-04-2008 10:53 PM

i live in the middle of hollywood. and see coyotes every so often. they were yipping at the moon last week. my cat, who wants nothing to do with me 360 days out of the year suddenly became to most affectionate little cuddle bug.

Eric Coffey 12-05-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 9dreizig (Post 4341212)
Or rabid

+1

If you see a coyote in a populated area, during the day, there is a good chance that it is rabid.

livi 12-05-2008 01:18 AM

Plenty of tips how to handle a coyote in the old cartoon with the roadrunner (beep-beep). That is still one of most funny cartoons I have ever seen. All the gizmos and crazy trap ideas and still the poor coyote always end up crashing into rocks and falling from high cliffs.

But I appreciate you admitting to screaming like a girl. Takes a man to do that. Admitting, that is. :D

m21sniper 12-05-2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4341304)
Not many coyotes in my area...do you think sheep ranchers packing mini-14's could have anything to do with that?

I blasted quite a few 'yotes with my Mini-14 in Oklahoma back in the 80s.

KFC911 12-05-2008 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 9dreizig (Post 4341212)
or rabid ...

+1

KFC911 12-05-2008 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 4341371)
Plenty of tips how to handle a coyote in the old cartoon with the roadrunner (beep-beep)...

He needs an "Acme coyote kit" :)

rouxroux 12-05-2008 04:31 AM

"True men don't kill coyotes" -RHCP, (early 80's)?

oldE 12-05-2008 04:34 AM

It seems as coyotes migrated East, they morphed a bit. The ones we have around here range close to 50 lbs or so and their coloring has bits of tan, black and cream.
We live 1/4 mile off the road and have them running through the field in front of the house frequently. (A few weeks ago, one young one spent 3 hours hunting for mice in that field, totally ignoring our dogs.)
I have seen as many as 7 at one time on the river ice.
We don't let our cats out, as we try to keep from giving the coyotes snack food.

Les

rcecale 12-05-2008 04:45 AM

Meh...coyotes... Big deal!

You want something that will mess you up, scare the he!! outta you?

Try a coydog!

A coydog is the hybrid offspring of a male coyote (Canis latrans) and a female dog (Canis lupus familiaris). Together they are genetically capable of producing fertile young.

More info here...
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16...Sacchetto2.JPG

Randy

Jeff Higgins 12-05-2008 06:52 AM

It's been too many years, but one of my favorite pastimes used to be being hunted by coyotes. Yes, I was actually hunting them, but to be successfull, one must fool them into hunting you.

Coyote hunting involves calling, just like ducks and geese. The idea is to make the little fellers come looking for you. It's best to have a partner that can cover your back, looking the other way, just in case (they usually approach from downwind, but not always). The idea is to sound like an injured or dying rabbit, either by blowing on a call much like a duck call, or by playing an electronic call. Decoys are also used - one of my most effective set-ups in an "over-called" area was a stuffed Snoopy doll (I'm not kidding...) and a dog yelper call. Set the stuffed animal about 20-30 yards away, staked to the gound, tie a string around its neck and pull on it to animate the dog. Then proceed to make noises like a dog with his tail slammed in a car door... Works like a charm...

Anyway, the excitement of being hunted by a coyote can be addictive. Talk about an adreneline rush when one pops up out of nowhere, that you didn't see working its way in. It's rather disconcerting at times. I would sit with my rifle in my lap, and a big bore revolver under it, at all times. The rifle (Ruger #1 in .220 Swift) was for the ones seen at a distance that stopped long enough to shoot. The revolver was for the ones that surprised us - sometimes at distances measured in feet, not yards. .44's and .45's are not necessary for coyotes, but that's what we packed nonetheless.

While we were calling specifically for coyotes, there are lots of other hungry opportunists out there. The areas I used to do this in are great black bear and mountain lion habitat as well. We've had to stand up and make enough of a ruckus to shoo off one or two of those over the years as well. Big revolvers were comforting when all we had were little rifles. Fun stuff...

Rich Lambert 12-05-2008 07:41 AM

There's coyotes everywhere around us. About once a month someone posts a lost small dog/cat sign on every pole in the neighborhood...they're usually named something like Precious or Cuddles. We've lost one cat. I've heard coyotes hunt cats by having one animal in some tall grass or bushes making rustling noises and when curious cat comes to investigate they're jumped by his friends. Pretty sly. I'm not sure I'd want to be hunted by a pack of 'em.

vash 12-05-2008 08:16 AM

i used to hunt them all the time.

my friend sold the furs. easy with an electronic caller and a varmit rifle. too easy. i quit doing it. i tried it with a bow recently, and that is way to un-nerving. they have to get very close, and the excitement of watching them stalk the dying rabbit (me and my friend with a mouth call) was enough fun. i didnt release the arrow. it got to 15 yards of me. i was mildly scared.

i have never had one actively chase me. maybe rabid.

Hugh R 12-05-2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 4341587)
It's been too many years, but one of my favorite pastimes used to be being hunted by coyotes. Yes, I was actually hunting them, but to be successfull, one must fool them into hunting you. Fun stuff...

Yeah, in situations like that you're definitely not at the top of the food chain.

GG Allin 12-05-2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ruf-porsche (Post 4341188)
A coyote was found in a restaurant in Chicago, made all the local news.

Coyotes have been around here for a while, downtown and in the burbs. The really strange one was the Mountain Lion that wondered into Wrigleyville a few months ago. They confirmed it did not escape from somewhere, it wondered along the southern Wisconsin border then south to Chicago.

MT930 12-05-2008 08:30 AM

Serious fun and adrenalin. Great fun when you happen across them with the right equipment.

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LeeH 12-05-2008 09:00 AM

The bulletin board at our vet's office is filled with 'missing cat' notices. Outdoor cats in our neighborhood quickly become missing cats.

911boost 12-05-2008 09:10 AM

In the snowy range in Southern Wyoming we hear the coyotes all the time. Typically we have to put the dogs in the camper, especially my pug. I know for a fact that on more than one occasion they have been trying to lure the dogs out into the dark. When they get really close, I usually grab the Remington 870 and just prop it next to me. 00 Buck would stop em cold.

On a related note, I had a friend that would hunt them with his friends when he was younger. They would then sell the pelts to a local guy in Torrington, Wyoming. Anywhoo, the kid that drove had an older full sized Bronco. The shot a couple of em one night, and were driving back into town, when the guy driving slammed on the brakes and bailed. Yep, he looked in the rear view mirror and one of em was standing up. If I recall the sotry correctly, I think there were a couple of bullet holes in the truck when it was all said and done.

Bill

vash 12-05-2008 09:12 AM

that is why you skin them where they drop...hides dont stand up and attack. :D

911boost 12-05-2008 09:12 AM

Oh I agree, and I am more than positve there was some beer involved in that story.

Jeff Higgins 12-05-2008 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 4341882)
The bulletin board at our vet's office is filled with 'missing cat' notices. Outdoor cats in our neighborhood quickly become missing cats.


Same here. I'm in what used to be rural Snohomish County, and have been for 22 years now. We have been engulfed by suburbia, but there is still a lot of open, undeveloped space around us. Some of it is protected wetland, so it never will be developed. It's great habitat for suburban coyotes, and the occasional mountain lion or black bear. I've seen coyotes around our place the whole time we have lived here. I've heard mountain lions crying in our woods behind our place. The WDFW trapped a black bear within two miles of us just a couple of years ago.

Some one in a neighborhood to the north of us, one of the new ones, has gone around and posted signs on the telephone poles. "Coyotes in Your Neighborhood" in big bold letters at the top, followed by admonitions to not leave pets or food outside (it doesn't say "pets" and "food" are more or less interchangeable. Maybe I'm the only one to pick up on that...). It goes on to explain what to do if confronted by one, but leaves out the obvious - shoot the little bastard. All this rot about "looking big", not making eye contact or running, etc. Oh well.

Maybe I should set up and call a few in my 'hood. I could use the old Snoopy doll very effectively, methinks. Of course lighting off the old .220 Swift in a residential neighborhood might not go unnoticed. I'd bet they would all know who, as well. Hmm... maybe time to put up some more of my "silent" .45-70 loads...

pwd72s 12-05-2008 10:47 AM

I spent my 15th summer on a cattle ranch in Northen Cal...near a town called Adin.
The owner had a dog that loved killing coyotes...a Russian Wolfhound and Greyhound mix. Coyote spotted, he'd jump from the back of a moving jeep in order to catch one...it was amazing to watch the distance between this dog and a Coyote shrink. The dog would bowl the coyote over with contact, go for the throat, then 2 shakes of his head, it would be all over.

My single shot .22 took a few coyotes that summer. Don't think I was ever stalked by one. In cattle country, Coyotes have a fear of man...for good reason.

Jeff Higgins 12-05-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4342166)
I spent my 15th summer on a cattle ranch in Northen Cal...near a town called Adin.
The owner had a dog that loved killing coyotes...a Russian Wolfhound and Greyhound mix. Coyote spotted, he'd jump from the back of a moving jeep in order to catch one...it was amazing to watch the distance between this dog and a Coyote shrink. The dog would bowl the coyote over with contact, go for the throat, then 2 shakes of his head, it would be all over.

My single shot .22 took a few coyotes that summer. Don't think I was ever stalked by one. In cattle country, Coyotes have a fear of man...for good reason.

Single shot .22, during your 15th summer? Didn't think the self-contained metalic cartridge went back that far...;)

One of my old duck hunting buddies had a big old black Lab that loved to kill coyotes as well. When he was young, he had the legs to run one down pretty easily. Amazing how fast a 90 pound Lab can take apart a 25 pound coyote. He was a big, lovable lug of a couch potato/duck fetcher other than that. Just amazing what he would turn into at the mere whiff of a yodel dog, though. Friendly as could be with other dogs.

pwd72s 12-05-2008 11:23 AM

Ditto this rancher's greyhound/wolfhound mix...just a cuddle bunny "please scritch me behind the ears and pat my chest" dog. Even got along well with the barn cats. But he sure had a thing for coyotes...

Really, I swear...the metallic cartridge came on the scene a few years before I entered my teens...;)

dd74 12-05-2008 11:33 AM

I normally see coyotes during my rides through the hills of Griffith Park, near Hollywood. The ones I see are not afraid of humans. They stand by the road, staring at traffic or passersby. I've seen one literally stake out a kids' outdoor b-day party in the park, and one time while I was climbing a hill, a coyote followed me the whole way up. I think the only thing that abated whatever it wanted to do, was the spinning of my legs and the sound of the chain over the gear teeth.

In the mountainous regions of L.A., coyotes (and owls and hawks) are why you don't let a puppy or small dog outside without a leash. And even then, I've heard of coyotes snatching little dogs right off the leash, in front of the owner.

The most stupid action I've seen involving coyotes were some guys who ran into the bushes and chased out a couple coyotes. If a pups' den had been in there, and the mother anywhere close, I'm certain those guys would have soon needed a trip to Emergency, a rabies shot being the least of their problems.

pwd72s 12-05-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4342302)
I normally see coyotes during my rides through the hills of Griffith Park, near Hollywood. The ones I see are not afraid of humans. They stand by the road, staring at traffic or passersby. I've seen one literally stake out a kids' outdoor b-day party in the park, and one time while I was climbing a hill, a coyote followed me the whole way up. I think the only thing that abated whatever it wanted to do, was the spinning of my legs and the sound of the chain over the gear teeth.

In the mountainous regions of L.A., coyotes (and owls and hawks) are why you don't let a puppy or small dog outside without a leash. And even then, I've heard of coyotes snatching little dogs right off the leash, in front of the owner.

The most stupid action I've seen involving coyotes were some guys who ran into the bushes and chased out a couple coyotes. If a pups' den had been in there, and the mother anywhere close, I'm certain those guys would have soon needed a trip to Emergency, a rabies shot being the least of their problems.

Certain types of animals NEED to develop a fear of man...or they become a problem. This is why I think the ban of hunting cougars with dogs is stupid...
The day will come in Oregon when a human child will be killed by a Cougar...bank on it.

JTO 12-05-2008 11:58 AM

My father in law and I were camping and fishing near Hart Mountain in Southeast Oregon. One morning, the FIL left camp to relieve himself. I was packing up sleeping bags etc. and happened to look up. I saw a coyote slinking through the rocks, in the direction of where I thought my FIL was. I thought that was odd so I drew my 1911 and drove a Hydrashock through his chest. FIL stood up, pulling on his drawers and said, "thanks, he was stocking me and getting too close".

Always take a gun with you for your morning constitutional.
Troy


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