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lendaddy 04-10-2009 06:24 PM

"To be honest...."
 
I have a buddy that claims this phrase is not acceptable, that it implies everything previously said was not honest. I say it's just a common phrase meaning "without sugar coating it".

What say you? Do you take it literal or what?

futuresoptions 04-10-2009 06:33 PM

I use it quite a bit... but not to prove that I am honest with those I speak to, but to set them up for the truth that may hurt their ego / feelings... I would hope that more people would be frank with me when I ask questions versus some of the answers that I receive.. sometimes I can be super brilliant, and at other times I am as dumb as a box of rocks...

old man neri 04-10-2009 06:40 PM

There are a lot of phrases in the English language that don't make sense if you pick them apart. "All but done" WTF does that really mean. The list is endless.

I think 'to be honest' implies that you were not lying before but now you are going to say everything in an unrestrained manner. Not going to hold anything back. Or you are not saying the company line but stating your own thoughts.

exitwound 04-10-2009 06:56 PM

yeah. "to be honest" is a setup for what's coming, an emphasis that you're being honest even if it's going to hurt their feelings.

VaSteve 04-10-2009 06:57 PM

It's a verbal crutch of some sort.

I used to have a friend that would start the most person, invasive questions with "If you don't mind my asking..." Followed by "how much do you make?" "what ever happened to your girlfriend?" etc

gprsh924 04-10-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by old man neri (Post 4599832)
There are a lot of phrases in the English language that don't make sense if you pick them apart. "All but done" WTF does that really mean. The list is endless.

I think 'to be honest' implies that you were not lying before but now you are going to say everything in an unrestrained manner. Not going to hold anything back. Or you are not saying the company line but stating your own thoughts.

This is how I use it. I am not implying that anything I said before was anything less than the truth, just that this current statement might be painful.

gassy 04-10-2009 07:15 PM

I had a co-worker who would always say "I'll see if we can't get that done for you" to requests from clients. Drove me nuts.

Monza_dh 04-10-2009 07:25 PM

"to be honest with you" is a major no-no at my company. If you are on a sales call with any managers and say it your are on the shtt list and will get called out by the VP. I used to use it but now never do after working it out of my vocabulary. Now when I hear it I cringe as well.

cgarr 04-10-2009 07:43 PM

Its kind of like "new and improved"

m21sniper 04-10-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4599814)
I have a buddy that claims this phrase is not acceptable, that it implies everything previously said was not honest. I say it's just a common phrase meaning "without sugar coating it".

What say you? Do you take it literal or what?

I agree with your interpetation.

red-beard 04-10-2009 08:37 PM

My ex-wife was the queen of mixed metaphors.

Her best was....

Quote:


I don't give two $hits to the wind...


Porsche-O-Phile 04-10-2009 09:35 PM

The one that gets me is "irregardless". It's not a word. "Regardless" is a word. "Irregardless" is a made-up meaningless bunch of foo.

bonkers 04-11-2009 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4600079)
The one that gets me is "irregardless". It's not a word. "Regardless" is a word. "Irregardless" is a made-up meaningless bunch of foo.

It's also a double-negative and a good reason to slap the utterer silly with a wet kipper.

"This word... I do no think it means wha you think it means."

DARISC 04-11-2009 12:49 AM

Fcuk you! Get fcuked!...........WTF?

mattdavis11 04-11-2009 12:57 AM

"To be honest, I voted "O"."

jeffgrant 04-11-2009 12:57 AM

I generally take it to be a shortened version of "to be BRUTALLY honest", in other words, "prepare yourself to hear some stuff that you're not going to like".

einreb 04-11-2009 06:26 AM

"The fact of the matter is..." makes me want to punch the person saying it.

TerryH 04-11-2009 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffgrant (Post 4600245)
I generally take it to be a shortened version of "to be BRUTALLY honest", in other words, "prepare yourself to hear some stuff that you're not going to like".

Yes, you have to interject an adverb there, so it doesn't mean you weren't honest prior, but instead you're not sugar coating the honesty now.

Noah930 04-11-2009 07:43 AM

Funny/ironic. There are a couple people I know who, when they start with the phrase "To be honest..." means it's time to get the waders out, because that's when their BS starts.

the 04-11-2009 09:59 AM

I guess it depends on the context.

I'd agree, if you are using it as a preface for something that is going to hurt someone's feelings, or similar, it's ok.

But that's not how most people use it. Most use it to preface the lie they are about to tell you.


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