Green

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by jyl

Yeah, I've lived places (New jersey) where the tap water is awful. Portland's is very good.

Actually, where my folks lived in NJ, they had a well and the tap water was better than bottled water.

[jyl]

Dunno about the groundwater in NJ. The tap water where we lived (Northern NJ) was very hard and tasted awful.

[Jim Bremner]

http://www.storyofstuff.com/

All of the cardboard boxes and packaging material that comes out of my warehouse are re-used.

65% of my warehouse shelves My desk, my pallet jack, myhandtruck, picking karts
file cabinets are "re-used"

My largest competitor has 100% new boxes,and packing shelvse desks etc BUT the company use recycled and solar etc. and claims that it's the "greenest" company in the bicycle biz.

[Scooter]

We should all be as green as "The Edge" from U2:

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/people/1556526,w-u2-edge-malibu-green-mansions-050409.article

I especially love the part about the emissions from the trucks used to build the "Green" complex and how long it will take to recover from those emissions.

[Math]

i try to buy quality things that I can fix, and wont end up in the garbage. I try not to buy things i dont need. I avoid plastics as much as possible.I dispose my used oil at the recycling center.
thats about it.
I try not to be wastefull, I hate the green label.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by VINMAN

The whole "green thing" is a load of BS. The only way I even come close, is I'm a big recycling nut. But thats basically because I hate seeing garbage all over the place. Litter and dumping is one of my biggest pet peeves.

I really think this is the healthiest attitude about "Green" any person should be expected to have w/o going overboard.

Originally Posted by VINMAN

Plus I am vehemently against the whole bottled water craze. What a huge scam that everyone has got suckered into. The largest amount of trash I see is water bottles all over the place.

+1. But then again, aren't high levels of trihalomethanes being found in NY and NJ drinking water these days?

[dd74]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

John, if you let our tap water sit in a glass for a few days, it starts to turn some unnatural colors.

We use a Brita filter, not bottled water.

Jim - how often do you change the Brita filter? How expensive is it?

[dd74]

Originally Posted by jyl

Yeah, I've lived places (New jersey) where the tap water is awful. Portland's is very good.

Best tasting to me is New York tap. Makes sense considering the number of restaurants there.

Worst: Santa Monica - which is ironic being the conveniently-liberal-green-socialist enclave it is.

[jyl]

The other problem with bottled water, beside the expense, wasted plastic, and general pointlessness of it, is that you don't get the flouride that is in most municipal water systems. Better for kids to get flouride. No, it isn't a Commie plot.

In Portland, they don't flouridate the water. My dentist says that the difference between the teeth of a locally-raised person and an import is immediately obvious. The first time she saw me, she said "you're obviously not from around here".

[VINMAN]

Originally Posted by dd74

I really think this is the healthiest attitude about "Green" any person should be expected to have w/o going overboard.


+1. But then again, aren't high levels of trihalomethanes being found in NY and NJ drinking water these days?

Not sure about the levels. But I know we get a report every year, and all the toxin levels are always way below the EPA standards.

Ive been drinkin NYC tap water for 44 yrs. Never had a problem with it.

Whats really funny, is the biggest selling bottled water around here is Dasani. Which is actually NYC tap water, bottled in Queens. That idiots pay $1.75 a bottle for.
I drink a ton of water everyday, but I just fill up a Rubbermaid container.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by jyl

My dentist says that the difference between the teeth of a locally-raised person and an import is immediately obvious. The first time she saw me, she said "you're obviously not from around here".

I've heard that before too. But then I drink maybe one soft drink per month and my dentist said that makes me stand out.

[KaptKaos]

Can we substitute CSOB (Cheap son of a biatch) for green?

Buy and keep up old cars because the manufacturing is a sunk cost and they're greener (at least ones that get about 20 mpg+).
Drink tap water.
Use a clothes line.
Buy kids stuff at garage sales (bikes, toys, etc...) so that you're not contributing to new production.
Hand me down clothes, shoes, etc.. for your kids.
No TV, or at a minimum, only your old CRT and not a 42" flat panel.
No hand held video games for the kids (DS, etc..)
No iPods.
Kids don't NEED cell phones.
Don't run your AC.
Play under the sprinkler with the kids while watering your lawn.
Take showers with your wife =)
Don't stand in front of an open refrigerator (how many of us have heard that before?!).
Turn off the lights when you leave the room.
Use a corded home phone, not cordless.

Sounds like the 70s doesn't it?

Here's more:
Don't buy newspapers or magazines.
Don't shop from catalogs.
Go to the library and borrow books, don't buy them.
Bring your own bags to the market.
Never order food from any restaurant that puts menus on your doorstep.
Use an old aluminum boy scout canteen for water.
Don't lease cars.

By being a CSOB, you become green in the process.

[jyl]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I've heard that before too. But then I drink maybe one soft drink per month and my dentist said that makes me stand out.

It is possible that the popularity of meth in the PNW is also an issue. I didn't ask her if all she was saying was that I didn't look like a methhead.

[jyl]

That would be pretty "green". But think of all the paper that would get used for the divorce litigation.

Originally Posted by KaptKaos

Can we substitute CSOB (Cheap son of a biatch) for green?

Buy and keep up old cars because the manufacturing is a sunk cost and they're greener (at least ones that get about 20 mpg+).
Drink tap water.
Use a clothes line.
Buy kids stuff at garage sales (bikes, toys, etc...) so that you're not contributing to new production.
Hand me down clothes, shoes, etc.. for your kids.
No TV, or at a minimum, only your old CRT and not a 42" flat panel.
No hand held video games for the kids (DS, etc..)
No iPods.
Kids don't NEED cell phones.
Don't run your AC.
Play under the sprinkler with the kids while watering your lawn.
Take showers with your wife =)
Don't stand in front of an open refrigerator (how many of us have heard that before?!).
Turn off the lights when you leave the room.
Use a corded home phone, not cordless.

Sounds like the 70s doesn't it?

Here's more:
Don't buy newspapers or magazines.
Don't shop from catalogs.
Go to the library and borrow books, don't buy them.
Bring your own bags to the market.
Never order food from any restaurant that puts menus on your doorstep.
Use an old aluminum boy scout canteen for water.
Don't lease cars.

By being a CSOB, you become green in the process.

[jyl]

No metrosexual is going to get under my skin.

Originally Posted by m21sniper

It aint just this topic either.

Looks at Jyl accusingly...

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by jyl

The other problem with bottled water, beside the expense, wasted plastic, and general pointlessness of it, is that you don't get the flouride that is in most municipal water systems. Better for kids to get flouride. No, it isn't a Commie plot.

I drink a lot of water. Not counting my morning coffee it is all I drink at home. I easily drink a gallon a day. If I drink tap water, I get a headache. It doesn't taste particularly bad, just a little harder than bottled water. I don't know why, and if I only drink a bit, it is fine, but if I drink my normal intake from the tap, I get a headache. Every time. The same amount of bottled water, no headache.

It isn't any tap water either, I drank tap water (from her well) when visiting my mom in Oklahoma, no problems at all. Water from my in-laws house in Nevada has also been OK, but I don't think I drink as much water there as I do at home.

Tom

[jyl]

What happens if you filter your tap water? Like with a Brita pitcher?

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by jyl

What happens if you filter your tap water? Like with a Brita pitcher?

Tried it, no difference.

[dd74]

Wouldn't the act of buying a used car, truck, motorcycle, bicycle, etc., be considered "green"?

Consider the energy and material that is not expended with the continued use (reuse) of an older product.

This could be an argument against the govt taking away our old cars to make us drive new ones, despite the mandated fuel economy standards.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by dd74

Wouldn't the act of buying a used car, truck, motorcycle, bicycle, etc., be considered "green"?

Consider the energy and material that is not expended with the continued use (reuse) of an older product.

This could be an argument against the govt taking away our old cars to make us drive new ones, despite the mandated fuel economy standards.

Silly man. If you don't drive a hybrid, you hate the Earth. I bet you kill kittens too, don't you?