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Porsche-poor 09-27-2018 07:20 AM

yep no going back.

GH85Carrera 09-27-2018 07:48 AM

Much like QuickBooks. The push for everyone to go to QuickBooks on-line. Once all your data is uploaded, you can never download it. You can run reports, and run the business just fine as long as the internet is working. No thanks. I will stay in 100% control of my data files and do my own backups. I use Quicken for my personal checkbook. I have used it since the days of loading the program from a 5.25 inch floppies back in the DOS days of the 1980s. I still have that data file, and I can look up a check I wrote in the 1980s to today. After 30+ years, that one data file has gone through dozens of program updates, but it has never been lost.

porsche4life 09-27-2018 08:07 AM

Morning guys. Headed back to the airport to try to eat to Rennsport again! American decided I didn’t need to go last night after all, and that I’d really prefer to fly into San Jose and pay out of pocket for a rental car.

GH85Carrera 09-27-2018 08:25 AM

Sounds like the airlines. The drive from San Jose to Monterey is interesting, if ya like California traffic. The right lane travels at 10 over the limit and the left lane is even faster. When we spent a week in Monterey my wife flew into San Jose. So I made two trips up and back. Not a bad drive but not much fun.

Have fun at Rennsport.

Porsche-poor 09-27-2018 08:30 AM

sounds like a lot of fun. make the airline spring for the rental.

GH85Carrera 09-27-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-poor (Post 10196666)
sounds like a lot of fun. make the airline spring for the rental.

Good luck with that.

On my flight to DC, our airplane left late, circled around for a while because they did not have a gate open, and when we landed my connection was supposed to leave in 5 minutes from the other side of Dulles Airport. I walked fast, and got there in 10 minutes, the flight was gone. They knew I was on the way and did not care. They gave me a $10 voucher for some food, at an airport restaurant that is way overpriced. Try finding a meal for 10 bucks at Dulles. Fortunately I had my company credit card to provide me some comforting frosty wheat pops, and food. I had to waste several hours and got to my hotel room at midnight. 19 hours from OKC to DC. Yea, it was fun.

flipper35 09-27-2018 08:44 AM

All the software companies are really pushing for the lease model but as crappy as they can be some days Adobe at least lets you have the package and data installed locally, which is good considering how bloated everything is getting.

porsche4life 09-27-2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-poor (Post 10196666)
sounds like a lot of fun. make the airline spring for the rental.

I’m going to call and complain, but I suspect they will tell me to pound sand or offer me credit. Not sure I want credit on an airline that’s treated me like crap

GH85Carrera 09-27-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10196685)
All the software companies are really pushing for the lease model but as crappy as they can be some days Adobe at least lets you have the package and data installed locally, which is good considering how bloated everything is getting.

Yea, Adobe only rents the software, but it does install locally. And Photoshop is THE standard and I have been using forever. I had a program call PhotoStyler that Adobe bought and the next upgrade was Photoshop 2 or 3, I don't remember. I know how to make it work, and it does work. Except the (insert long string of expletives) limits on how big a file it will export. It will open crazy large files, but it flat will not save them. WFT???? WHY!

My mapping programs will make files that are simply huge. I have to cut them up in pieces in the mapping software, import the pieces, do my Photoshop work, and then bring them back into the mapping software as pieces, and them make a final mosaic.

Grumble grumble. All because Photoshop decided that large files are just not something it want to save.

RKDinOKC 09-27-2018 09:52 AM

Let's see...
First there was one big computer with terminals everywhere.
Then PCs as terminals on the big computers so you could print to local printers.
The Apps to run locally on the PCs and save files to servers.
Then storage space on servers on the internet.
Then Apps that manage licensing on internet servers
Now they gone back to PCs just being terminals on internet servers.

Seems to me that moving everything to the "Cloud" is just laziness on the part of local IT
A real had look at the actual costs including the network access to male the cloud usable is insane.
And don't even get me started on data security, no matter what the say.

flipper35 09-27-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 10196688)
I’m going to call and complain, but I suspect they will tell me to pound sand or offer me credit. Not sure I want credit on an airline that’s treated me like crap

Years ago American had an issue where the plane was late because the luggage cart ran out of gas. Because it was late we missed our connection out of Chicago to San Diego. Fortunately we were told why the plane was late at our original departure airport in Dubuque (those are good service people by the way). The Chicago staff said they weren't responsible we called them on it and they admitted that yes, it was their fault and gave us 2 meal vouchers and a hotel for two. We had four tickets. Morons. Everything did get straightened out and we actually got transfered to a Delta flight early the next morning.

GH85Carrera 09-27-2018 10:43 AM

Yea, one thing for certain, no one at all can access my files at night when the computer is off.

I have a wi-fi router like most folks. My IP address rotates whenever Cox decides it is time. I don't hose any web sites. I know I am not invulnerable to a good hacker. But they also have to get through the firewall, and then into my files without me noticing. Not impossible, but I don't see it as likely. My financial files all have passwords that are certainly not hack proof, but it is a layer.

All of that makes me feel MUCH safer than storing everything "on the cloud" that HAS to be accessed through the internet. That can always be intercepted. And hacked.

flipper35 09-27-2018 10:48 AM

It especially worries me with the MitM attacks which are transparent. I get complaints all the time about out firewall encrypting email automatically as well. I would rather it err on the side of caution than rely on users remembering to encrypts all the time.

RKDinOKC 09-27-2018 11:32 AM

Yep we've had several crm users that their passwords were hacked because the surfed off to other sites with the same window they logged into crm with.

RKDinOKC 09-27-2018 11:33 AM

Now KnowBe4 is warning about web sites being copied to get users to give up their credentials.

flipper35 09-27-2018 01:54 PM

Our training has been going very well, but we have one that still fails the test in epic fashion even after in person workshops. If I could make policy I would remove access to the internet and email for a failure like that.

RKDinOKC 09-27-2018 02:09 PM

Our new VP of IT killed the KnowBe4 training. Very grateful I am no longer responsible for anti-spam anti-virus!

Porsche-poor 09-27-2018 03:35 PM

I vote for a click on everything policy. That way when it eats my computer I don't have to draft for the rest of the day.

flipper35 09-27-2018 03:43 PM

Richard, I assume it was canceled because it made upper management realize something about themselves?

David, that is all well and good until a pattern is noticed. You need a worm to kill the internal network bandwidth by reinstalling all the MS and third patches from the last 12 months simultaneously. Though sometimes it isn't a worm and your actual patch management server that gets a wild hair with automation. Ooops.

RKDinOKC 09-27-2018 03:53 PM

Nope, it was canceled because our new VP of IT wanted his new hosted anti-spam anti-virus and said it will stop everything. Of course it doesn't.

We also got a new Server Manager. He is going thru and changing profile settings for no apparent reason. People all of the sudden can't login, or there computer goes to locked screen saver after 1 whole minute of inactivity. Default printers quit working or can'ge get into file shares they could before.

He has also been going thru and changing things in Office365 that I have to go back in and change back. I've also had to export all our active users from our HR system and re-import them into AD because he screwed up stuff like managers, departments, titles.
He also went thru and changed a bunch of stuff on our firewall so only about half the people using VPN can get in.

He seems to think it is normal for things to just stop working after he has changed the settings and it is anything except the settings he changed. Funny how we didn't have any of those kind of problems until he was given admin on that stuff.

The last guy just changed little thing every once in while. After a couple of weeks decided to let me do office365 and the network guy handle the firewall.

Been taking classes to get certified on Office365 stuff. There are things Microsoft is teaching that you just don't do or don't work anything like they say it does.


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