Stijn!!

[Flieger]

I didn't identify with the Wall as much as I perhaps should have. I have a great relationship with my father for one thing. At times I saw school rules and regimen being rather lame, but not that often once in high school. I love college. It's just the socializing outside of class that I have issues with, so the whole meat grinder and such did not resonate with me.

I have occasional moments where I will just sit and think and stare at something but it is usually when I am up on top of a hill or something, not in front of the TV, and I don't fixate on one issue like pink does.

Taking what Waters said about walls between people I guess I should learn to break through the wall I have put myself behind but I can't say that watching or listening to the Wall motivates/grabs me any more than a simple statement like that.

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by nynor

really? you have no visceral response? no emotional knowledge of what the album/artist(s) is saying?

i've never seen it 'stoned'.

not trying hard enough is another 'college' type response. this isn't a rock music course.

I've seen movies that gave me much more of a visceral response. Perhaps I was going in looking for a meaning and that clouded my feelings. Perhaps it was the jumping-around-in-time manner in which the story is protrayed. Perhaps it was my puzzlement at how he somehow goes from mental breakdown nut case that should be locked up to being the leader of some neo-Nazi party.

Maybe seeing it a second time would let me experience it on a more emotional level.

[nynor]

okay.

well, good night, gents.

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by nynor

okay.

well, good night, gents.

Good night. Sorry if you were hoping for an epiphany from me.

[Outback Porsche]

Night Glen/D

Two hours of this BS to go.....WEEKEND!

[Flieger]

Dave, you might get a laugh out of this.
Try to get through the whole 5 minutes.

[Flieger]

I feel like Aqualung gets me thinking more:

[Flieger]

And for a less cerebral and more emotional response I go with these:








I have a lot more songs and bands that I like but those are more up-beat songs that make me feel energized. Rush can cover the whole spectrum for me, though. Fly By Night is one of my favorite albums and the songs are just great for feeling good on a drive down the coast. But they have some heavier songs, though not sort of sorrow and angst that Wish You Were Here brings about.

[porsche4life]

Night guys.... Nothing like getting paid to drink free beer and play free poker.

Paid golf tomorrow am.

[Outback Porsche]

Your in sales aren't you Sid? Where's the strippers? Every sales manager that I've ever had contact with at a conference wants to fill ya with alcohol and find some strippers. What are they teaching you younger generation these days?

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by nynor

really? you have no visceral response? no emotional knowledge of what the album/artist(s) is saying?

i've never seen it 'stoned'.

not trying hard enough is another 'college' type response. this isn't a rock music course.

I am curious now. What are your reactions to the Wall?

Now that I have thought more, I guess I had some reactions in how I differ from the film. I am good friends with my dad, but I have drifted away from my mom over the years and now our relationship is rather cold. Partly due to her becoming so fanatical about the Catholic Church. She used to be a little more open-minded. Now I think she is going off the deep-end. Like becoming a creationist, which is not what they teach in Catholic school (which is intelligent design). And I have been drifting further and further away from the Church as I have from her. I am not sure who started first and whether I drifted from her first or from the Church first but all these matters have become intertwined now.

So I would say there is a wall between me and my mother, so hearing "Mother" is kind of the antithesis of how I feel.

[Outback Porsche]

[slodave]

I'm not sure how I do it. No late Friday night encounters, but I finish rollerblading at the park and the Lexus SUV that was parked next to me when I arrived was still there, but now with door open and young guy in it. I'm taking off my blades from the passenger seat, he see's me fiddling with my phone, turns his radio down so I could make a call - which I wasn't, just texting.

We get to chatting a bit and he tells me he's been in the lot all day and doesn't know where he is. Okay. He apparently went out to Hollywood last night with some friends, got plastered, ran out of gas and ended up in the parking lot. I don't have much going on, so I offer to get a small tank from my parents and get him a couple gallons. Won't do that, says he came from a wealthy family and doesn't like the handouts.

Long and short of it, he sells his wallet (Louis Vuitton) to some guy in the parking lot for $20, I drive him to the gas station so he can buy a plastic can and a gallon.

Nice enough 27 year old kid, but.... Looks like he's been in and out of prison for most of his adult life. Meth really messes you up. The kid did not look like a meth head.

Oh well, so I met another dude with prison ink.

[slodave]

Originally Posted by Flieger

Afterwards I felt like it must be better when stoned to get the reverence it does.

Actually, acid or 'shrooms are better for this.

In brief, the first part of The Wall is about Roger (young pink), his dad, and mom. Dad was killed in a famous WWII battle in Italy. The album "The Final Cut" deals with this more. The parts when Pink is an adult, is about both Roger and Syd.

[slodave]

"When The Tigers Broke Free" is about the battle of Anzio, Italy. Thought the whole album deals with his dad.

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by slodave

I'm not sure how I do it. No late Friday night encounters, but I finish rollerblading at the park and the Lexus SUV that was parked next to me when I arrived was still there, but now with door open and young guy in it. I'm taking off my blades from the passenger seat, he see's me fiddling with my phone, turns his radio down so I could make a call - which I wasn't, just texting.

We get to chatting a bit and he tells me he's been in the lot all day and doesn't know where he is. Okay. He apparently went out to Hollywood last night with some friends, got plastered, ran out of gas and ended up in the parking lot. I don't have much going on, so I offer to get a small tank from my parents and get him a couple gallons. Won't do that, says he came from a wealthy family and doesn't like the handouts.

Long and short of it, he sells his wallet (Louis Vuitton) to some guy in the parking lot for $20, I drive him to the gas station so he can buy a plastic can and a gallon.

Nice enough 27 year old kid, but.... Looks like he's been in and out of prison for most of his adult life. Meth really messes you up. The kid did not look like a meth head.

Oh well, so I met another dude with prison ink.

But it is very entertaining for us!

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by slodave

"When The Tigers Broke Free" is about the battle of Anzio, Italy. Thought the whole album deals with his dad.

Thanks to Dee I have that album.

I'll read up on Anzio.

[slodave]

Comfortably Numb, from The Wall is one of my all time favorite songs. Why? I will never tell. I get a bit chocked up every time I hear it, I get goose bumps and the hair stands up on my arms. The Final Cut (entire album) does the same thing.

[slodave]

The Final Cut is an album I can't own. I don't know why, but every tape/cd ends up chewed up or scratched. Kinda freaky.

[Flieger]

The guitar solo in Comfortably Numb is epic. I agree with you on that.