Green laser for AR..

[MotoSook]

In case you're still looking for a green laser:

Green Laser incl Mount


$50 and it's pretty rugged. The JSE description says it's a JSE product, but it's actually an NC Star product. Similar to this: (ETA: it is the same. Same part number.)

Welcome to NcSTAR

Probably the same but with a 1913 rail mount. I bought it for a knock around pistol fo grins. It looks like it'll be fine for my range toy

[m21sniper]

Let us know how it holds up plz. I'm interested to see if the switch lasts.

[rattlsnak]

anyone know how the 'remote switch' works on that model? pressure? how long is the cord, etc? if not, i'll give them a call later today.

[Rick Lee]

If it doesn't have a pressure switch, I'm sure you can add one. I have one on my shotgun taclight.

[m21sniper]

Those cheap Chinese pressure switches fail a lot. Then again, so do the switches on the body of the lasers themselves.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

I got to use one of those Primary Arms M3 clones a week ago. Very clear--one of the problems I have seen with cheapo red dots is bleed/distortion/etc. due to poor glass, bad focus, blah blah blah. This one had none of those problems. The owner had a QD-mounted 3x magnifier behind it, also from Primary.

Was a nice setup for a reasonable price.

[m21sniper]

The quality of the glass is irrelevant if you're using a red dot properly (ie, both eyes open). In fact, you can cover the lens with duct tape, and it would still work the same way, and be just as effective.

Original red dot sights didn't even have glass, you couldn't even see through them.

Edit to add: Well of course with a 3x magnifier, it does definitely matter.

[dhoward]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Original red dot sights didn't even have glass, you couldn't even see through them.

Not sure about that one.
Have a couple of original Aimpoints.

[m21sniper]

Aimpoint did not make the original red dots.

Armson OEG occulated red dot gun sights were used by US Army special forces during the Son Tay prison raid in Vietnam, in 1972.



An Armson simply projects a red dot onto a black background. When you use it with both eyes open the circuitry in your brain causes the dot to "appear" on your target as the scope itself turns into an almost transparent blur.

All reflex sights are intended and designed to be used this way. Hence, for unmagnified shooting, the actual glass itself exists simply to reflect the dot into your focal plane. It has no other purpose. You could spray paint the objective lens black and it would still work every bit as well.

[dhoward]

I understand, as I have used red dots for some time in competitive shooting. I was unaware of the early millitary application.

[m21sniper]

My first foray into red dots was an Aimpoint 1000 back in 1988.


At the time it was state of the art.

Been using them ever since.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

The quality of the glass is irrelevant if you're using a red dot properly (ie, both eyes open).

Well, if the glass is poorly coated and/or poorly ground, it won't provide a good clean reflection.

[m21sniper]

A piece of white paper with duct tape holding it in place would work.

Where that optical glass does become far more important is when you're using a magnifier. In that case you are very much correct- the quality of glass does make a noticeable difference.