hilarity ensued

[HardDrive]

I'm 100% with varmint. All this glamorizing the homeless crap.....give me a break.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by vash

but cops, like the rest of the world comes in many many variations.

and for that, we should be thankful. The world would be a much grayer place without the hilarity of police brutality.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by speeder

I know, I know...back in the good old days, you could just call 'em niggers and no one said boo. I mean it's just the same thing as calling someone white, right?

Schit for brains.

Where my father grew up, this was the case. It was the word used by themselves about themselves. There was not the same extreme negative connotation that there is today.

[McLovin]

I think it's still the same in the bad old days of today. There is no police force in America that condones the beating of a citizen, on the sole basis of that person calling a police officer a name (including the N word).

[varmint]

you've got six bums squatting in a grocery store parking lot.

they are drunk in public.
they reek of weed.
they are pissing everywhere.
they "fit the description" of the suspects in 90% of the robberies, assaults, rapes, etc in the neighborhood.
every last one of them is on parole or has warrants.

any cop who did not start hassling these guys would not be doing his job.

one of the beggars says "**** you nigger" to the cops and tries to run for it.





hollywood promotes the myth that all homeless guys are really brilliant cellists who turned to drink after a broken heart. or they are down on their luck vets. or they are women thrown out of apartments by heartless mortgage companies.
bullcrap. the 1% who might actually be like that either get jobs and get off the streets in a few months, or they are killed by the other permanent homeless.

the new pack in town are all snow birds down from seattle and vancouver. meaner than the locals.

[McLovin]

Law enforcement should carry out their work in a professional manner. If an individual officer is too emotional or incapable of professionally dealing with scum like you describe, he should find a different line of work. A cop in LA is going to be screamed at and insulted day in and day out by all sorts of low life on the streets. No one said it is easy.

If the entire incident would have been videotaped, we'd have one out of work cop and one fairly rich homeless person now. Because what the cop did was improper, unprofessional, emotional, against law enforcement policy, illegal and in violation of a citizen's rights.

But, that's ok with most of you. I suppose that's all part of the increasingly fascist mentality of the US.

[The Gaijin]

Yelling at a cop in this town will get you arrested for disturbing the peace.

And creating a ruckus while they are doing their job will get you arrested for even more.

You all create a scenario that this hinged on the homeless guy (or whatever he really is), called the cop a "N-word", and that is what set the cop off. Look at it this way - the cops are doing their job - the guy on the bike is trying to mix it up - and he gets run down (and I imagine) locked up.

That is not in violation of anyone's rights nor a increasingly fascist mentality.

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by McLovin

There is no police force in America that condones the beating of a citizen, on the sole basis of that person calling a police officer a name (including the N word).

I think that's true. Anyone here have info to the contrary?

[McLovin]

The person should have simply been arrested, then, for disturbing the peace, resisting arrest, or what ever other law he allegedly broke. Arrested in a professional, non-emotional manner.

Physically beating the person as retaliation for calling the police officer a name is illegal and a violation of the person's rights. That's a simple legal fact.

And, a law enforcement officer is deputized by the government to legally carry and gun and use force, up to deadly force, against citizens when necessary. An officer using the power of the government on a personal whim to beat up a citizen because he was personally insulted by a word - and being commended for it by so many here - is a fascist mentality.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by DARISC

I think that's true. Anyone here have info to the contrary?

Of course not. That would be impossible, because of the First Amendment. It was ruled a long time ago by the Supreme Court that inflammatory, racist and offensive speech - including the N word - is still constitutionally protected free speech.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

could not agree more. In the uk a vast number of homeless are people from the forces. Do their bit for the country and cant take being back home.

The guy says a few words and risks brain damage coming off a bike.

Ohh yeah hilarious

+10000000000000

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by speeder

There is something hilarious about the story and it's the fact that racists are ALWAYS cowards who shout "nigger" from a passing car or from behind a computer keyboard or while in a pack that out-numbers the recipient.

Everyone is racist. Blacks most of all.

Being a racist does not mean you're a coward. Is Jim Brown a coward? Was Malcom X a coward? Is Louis Farrakahn a coward?

No.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by speeder

I know, I know...back in the good old days, you could just call 'em niggers and no one said boo. I mean it's just the same thing as calling someone white, right?

Schit for brains.

But why didn't you answer his question?

"So if a black homeless man yells "Fcuk you you god damn white honkey piece of sht pig" to a white cop, it's ok for the white cop to administer a beat down?

Or is it only the "N" word delivered by a white guy to a black cop that give the license for a little police brutality?"

What's your answer?

IME blacks are far more racist than whites. It makes sense, they have reason to be IMO, and they are.

Originally Posted by McLovin

Law enforcement should carry out their work in a professional manner. If an individual officer is too emotional or incapable of professionally dealing with scum like you describe, he should find a different line of work. A cop in LA is going to be screamed at and insulted day in and day out by all sorts of low life on the streets. No one said it is easy.

If the entire incident would have been videotaped, we'd have one out of work cop and one fairly rich homeless person now. Because what the cop did was improper, unprofessional, emotional, against law enforcement policy, illegal and in violation of a citizen's rights.

But, that's ok with most of you. I suppose that's all part of the increasingly fascist mentality of the US.

Bro, i agree with you 100%.

Youz beez mah niggah.

Originally Posted by The Gaijin

Yelling at a cop in this town will get you arrested for disturbing the peace.

And creating a ruckus while they are doing their job will get you arrested for even more.

You all create a scenario that this hinged on the homeless guy (or whatever he really is), called the cop a "N-word", and that is what set the cop off. Look at it this way - the cops are doing their job - the guy on the bike is trying to mix it up - and he gets run down (and I imagine) locked up.

That is not in violation of anyone's rights nor a increasingly fascist mentality.

Yes it is.

Police are not allowed to kick people in the head. It's against departmental policy in probably every department in the US.

Police are supposed to set the example of proper behavior, not be the ones that start fist fights because they're offended at what someone called them. When making an arrest, police are supposed to use the minimum force necessary. Clearly that did not happen here.

They violate the law so flagrantly because apologists such as yourself enable them. You sir, are an enabler.

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Of course not. That would be impossible, because of the First Amendment. It was ruled a long time ago by the Supreme Court that inflammatory, racist and offensive speech - including the N word - is still constitutionally protected free speech.

Geez, I'm figuring somebody here is going to come up with a legal justification for the cops actions!

I don't know who's response surprised me more - sammy's, who I've ever probably never agreed with, or speeder's, with whom I usually do.

If this had been the spoiled brat bastard of a well to do family, not some faceless homeless guy, you better believe there'd be hell to pay.

Seems a lot of people don't know that it's not a cop's job to be judge, jury and executioner, only to apprehend and arrest, if necessary, lawbreakers.

While the cop's bringing the bike down could probably be argued as justifiable because the guy was evading arrest, beating him once he was apprehended can't be.

[nynor]

fleeing and resisting arrest. done.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by vash

what if the homeless was (fake)PETA, and instead of a cop, it was a (fake)leather wearing biker dude?

yelling anything negative at the wrong person, can have some dire consequences.

i know, apples and oranges..but would be interesting to cross reference the two threads.

Bikers have not sworn an oath to uphold the law and defend society. Cops have.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by nynor

fleeing and resisting arrest. done.

He did neither. He was not being held on any charge or detained. He merely elected to fire off a parting word or two after he was rousted by the cops and told to move on.

There is no charge that you can imagine that justifies the beating of this man.

[varmint]

Originally Posted by DARISC

Geez, I'm figuring somebody here is going to come up with a legal justification for the cops actions!

I don't know who's response surprised me more - sammy's, who I've ever probably never agreed with, or speeder's, with whom I usually do.

If this had been the spoiled brat bastard of a well to do family, not some faceless homeless guy, you better believe there'd be hell to pay.

Seems a lot of people don't know that it's not a cop's job to be judge, jury and executioner, only to apprehend and arrest, if necessary, lawbreakers.

While the cop's bringing the bike down could probably be argued as justifiable because the guy was evading arrest, beating him once he was apprehended can't be.

the somebody who's justifying the cop's actions is the witness.

i am no friend to the police in this town. if i thought he went to far i would be handing a cel phone video to the DA right now.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

He did neither. He was not being held on any charge or detained. He merely elected to fire off a parting word or two after he was rousted by the cops and told to move on.

There is no charge that you can imagine that justifies the beating of this man.

fine.

just saying what the officer would say to justify his actions. and i am pretty sure it would go down just as the officer said. especially after they find the warrants and such that the guy probably has waiting for him.

[speeder]

I'll agree that technically and legally you can probably go around screaming "Fk you!" @ cops but down here on earth, it will buy you an ass-kicking. Cops are human beings, some are real ass holes themselves and common sense will say not to do that. And running from the cops? Chris Rock has a bit about that. Guaranteed ass-whoopin' under any and all circumstances.

This bag of douche was showing-off for his low-life buddies and instead got a Darwin award. (Non-fatal type). I cry me a river...