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ok... That's just brilliant!
hahaha!

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When I visited the Reina Sofia in Madrid, I went to see Guernica. So much has been written about this piece, my wife & I felt that the museum deserved a visit. Stunning. A masterpiece etc etc. I could understand it. Ditto for the preceding gallery of Dali - whose works are always entertaining.

Two rooms later, I burst out laughing in front of a Miro. WTF was this? Why did it deserve space on the wall? We left. Less than an hour, in & out. If I am an unappreciative heathen, so be it.

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those giger illustrations have a Nagel feel to them (for me) very dated. thought they were super cool back in the day...but wouldnt hang one now.
OK, so you're out of your mind.
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p.s

your "avant guard" ran out of new ideas in the 50's. give it up.
I honestly feel the urge to deliver a gangster slap every time i hear someone utter the term.

It's an almost 100% sure fire guarantee that the utterer is a douche.
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i should make it clear. i am not against the idea of abstract art. there is the potential for great beauty. but the entire field has become controlled by douchebags who are more interested in ripping off suckers, posing, and pissing off their fathers. whatever potential it had was squandered long before i was born.


great beauty, but full of douchebags. kind of like france.
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VARMINT! well done! that dragon slayer kid drawing is great! wanna sell it?

question. another forgotten name, maybe you remember. some illustrator, that got commissioned for the cover of TIME magazine. the article was about the nuclear race. this illustrator pushed the envelope beautifully. i remember the image well. there is a guy cowering in the corner, fear all over his face..his eyes, teeth...all of it in about fear. coming from outside of the image is the tip of some missle, pointing directly at him. i think TIME thought it was too much and the artist had to tame it down, and do another drawing. remember this, varmint?

thanks, but before my time. narrow it down to a year. maybe there's a way to find it then.


not sure i even still have that original. property of the studio.
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This is one of my favorite giger's.
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I honestly feel the urge to deliver a gangster slap every time i hear someone utter the term.

It's an almost 100% sure fire guarantee that the utterer is a douche.



i love throwing it back at them. modernism is the ****ing establishment now. they are the tired old conformists. i am the avant guard-rebel-revolutionary.





you should look up odd nerdrum. entirely unlike geiger. but interesting.
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And of course, by far his (Giger's) most famous creation:

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Snipe,

The symbiosis evident in the broad sweep of your dragpn's tail, juxtaposed against the rough hash marks of the sensitive shading and modeling of the almost anatomic musuclature, forces the viewer into a space not usually associated with parabolic astutenes so common in today's angst-ridden world. Such a succinct and pointed message is rare in BIC PIC media. A treasure and a triumph to be sure!
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Some of you guys need to read a few books on understanding art, whether traditional or modern. I think that if you do, you might find that there is much more to understanding, and therefore being able to evaluate, almost any piece of art than you would at first expect.

Like anything else, a little knowledge goes a long way.

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LOL, thanks Bob.

Thanks Java, i think i'll stick to creating it (i still draw stuff for my god son at the kitchen table with him sometimes, lol). I'll leave "understanding it" to someone with the time for exercises in mental masturbation.

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you might find that there is much more to understanding
No. You are looking too deep. Art speaks to you or it doesn't.

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No. You are looking too deep. Art speaks to you or it doesn't.

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That's quite true - if you really don't know what you're looking at.

How do you look "too deep"? Surely there's no point in looking deeper than what is there physically, light bouncing off it and activating your retinas - but, while that suffices for an illustrative piece, or a purely decorative piece, (where there really isn't anything else there) there is depth in the work of a Cezanne, Rothko, Picasso or Klimt, et al, that goes far deeper than a matter of a subjective "I like it" or "I don't like it".

If Guernica was not a famous painting, you knew absolutely nothing about it and saw it painted on the side of a broken down building in the Bronx as you drove down the street, can you honestly say that your reaction to it would be what you said it was when you saw it in Spain? Would you have even given it a second glance?

But no one is forcing anyone to care and look. What's amusing is how categorical and up-in-the air some people get when they lash out at what they don't choose to investigate and attempt to understand. Oh well.
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...I'll leave "understanding it" to someone with the time for exercises in mental masturbation.
Why am I not surprised that you have no interest in understanding and consider education to be "excercises in mental masturbation?"
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Why am i not surprised that you consider the "interpretation" of scribble an educational experience?
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Why am I not surprised that you....
Why am I not surprised that you're unwilling to show us some of your work? You're making us think you're ashamed to exhibit here for us piggies.

BTW, feel free to Photoshop your sig out of the piece if you change your mind and are so paranoid you don't want your real name out.





(Please resist the urge to post a piece by another artist... say, Bacon... as a "trap.")

C'mon. With a BFA and an MFA, you should be capable of defending your work, right?
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The most creative thing about your piece are the lines on the paper....pure genius.
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Some of you guys need to read a few books on understanding art, whether traditional or modern. I think that if you do, you might find that there is much more to understanding, and therefore being able to evaluate, almost any piece of art than you would at first expect.

Like anything else, a little knowledge goes a long way.

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i love being told to read books by someone who hasn't read through the entire thread. this had already been asked and answered.


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the painted word by tom wolf
the rape of the masters by kimball
anything by ruckstall
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Wow, the only thing missing from this thread is the bong.

Oh, and Darisc's art (j/k)

And whomever it was who laughed at Miro - shame on you!

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