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Jim Bremner 03-29-2010 08:02 PM

Hide your dog!:(

bell 03-29-2010 08:03 PM

Is there a way it could be modified so it couldn't fire and become a display piece?

onlycafe 03-29-2010 08:07 PM

jeepers, high times magazine? i haven't even thought of that since the seventies.
i've been living in a small town for a while i guess.

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:10 PM

Words like jeepers tell me that. :-)

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 5265906)
Hide your dog!:(

Both of them?

HunterVonWurst 03-29-2010 08:14 PM

12ga. 6.5" barrel. $5 tax stamp. Perfectly legal to own/sell/possess/carry (if your state allows it):

http://www.serbu.com/top/super_shorty_870.jpg

Don't believe everything the gov't tells you.

onlycafe 03-29-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5265930)
Words like jeepers tell me that. :-)


ok, substitute whatever word the kids are using today. i don't like being out of the loop.

Hugh R 03-29-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5265905)
Ok Hugh...splain......

Uh, if you had a questionable weapon, why on Earth would you call the BATF? What other "splain'ing" do you need? "IF" I'd inherited some firearm, I don't think I rush to the State to "register" it, maybe you would?SmileWavy

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 5265944)
ok, substitute whatever word the kids are using today. i don't like being out of the loop.

just kidding with you.

RWebb 03-29-2010 08:25 PM

you might be able to offer to disable it and keep it

or

1. tell BATF you WILL donate it to them for their museum, but you want the value stated in writing so you can take it off your taxes

2. tell them you want compensation for the "takings"*

dunno if those will work or not, legally

* normally, applies to real property but maybe it applies to, or can be made to apply, to chattels

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 5265958)
Uh, if you had a questionable weapon, why on Earth would you call the BATF? What other "splain'ing" do you need? "IF" I'd inherited some firearm, I don't think I rush to the State to "register" it, maybe you would?SmileWavy

Hugh what part about that fact that I had it for sale and that I had an interstate sale pending don't you understand. I've had it forever and could have kept it forever if I had just kept it under wraps. However it was listed on a national auction site, that BATF cruises all the time, I had a sale pending and I had to ship it. You just don't go shipping firearms over state lines without doing it properly, ask any FFL holder. I am not a license holder. So I have to use the proper channels to conduct the sale. Nobody could tell me whether or not it was legal or not. Had I just shipped it, had it been discovered later by BATF, say the person I sold it to tried to resell it, it would come back to me and it's jail time. Better to call them and give it up than go to jail.

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 5265962)
you might be able to offer to disable it and keep it

or

1. tell BATF you WILL donate it to them for their museum, but you want the value stated in writing so you can take it off your taxes

2. tell them you want compensation for the "takings"*

dunno if those will work or not, legally

* normally, applies to real property but maybe it applies to, or can be made to apply, to chattels

I asked them about that and they said uh...no. I DO plan on getting a receipt of some kind.

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterVonWurst (Post 5265943)
12ga. 6.5" barrel. $5 tax stamp. Perfectly legal to own/sell/possess/carry (if your state allows it):

http://www.serbu.com/top/super_shorty_870.jpg

Don't believe everything the gov't tells you.

" This is classified as an Any Other Weapon under the NFA, and is subject to a $5.00 tax stamp and background check. It must be transferred to a Class 3 dealer in your state on a Form 3, where you can receive it from them on a Form 4."

Mine does not fall under that category.

HunterVonWurst 03-29-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5265997)
Got a brand name for that puppy?

Mossberg 500 re-manufactured as a Serbu Super Shorty. About $700. Also available in Remington 870.

jriera 03-29-2010 08:45 PM

If I was you I will recommend to lawyer up ... a quick Google search will show that a few people have the same billy club from the same manufacturer on display on their web sites (not for sale but 'for display only')

Not sure what year it is (doubt is pre-1899, not a firearm but rather an antique) but if you want to keep it I am sure that there is ways to make it 'inert' and have it 'legally' (2nd Amendment notwithstanding)

HunterVonWurst 03-29-2010 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5265997)
Mine does not fall under that category.

I was just correcting your FFL dealer that "under 10 in. & firing 12 ga. is an illegal weapon."

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jriera (Post 5266014)
If I was you I will recommend to lawyer up ... a quick Google search will show that a few people have the same billy club from the same manufacturer on display on their web sites (not for sale but 'for display only')

Not sure what year it is (doubt is pre-1899, not a firearm but rather an antique) but if you want to keep it I am sure that there is ways to make it 'inert' and have it 'legally' (2nd Amendment notwithstanding)

Good advice but at this time I think I just want it out of my life. I have a nice collection of legal firearms and I don't need any hassles with them..(BATF)

targa911S 03-29-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterVonWurst (Post 5266016)
I was just correcting your FFL dealer that "under 10 in. & firing 12 ga. is an illegal weapon."

You validate my point about how misinformed people, even ones in the biz, giving advice. Better to go to the source than go to the joint. hell what do they care they aren't going to prison and having their gun collection taken away.

jriera 03-29-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5266018)
Good advice but at this time I think I just want it out of my life. I have a nice collection of legal firearms and I don't need any hassles with them..(BATF)

Sure you don't ... in any case try to have your lawyer around

HunterVonWurst 03-29-2010 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5266021)
You validate my point about how misinformed people, even ones in the biz, giving advice. Better to go to the source than go to the joint.

Hmm...I seem to get most of my bad advice from government employees.


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