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berettafan 03-30-2010 11:30 AM

Miss Manners i am not.

BRPORSCHE 03-30-2010 11:43 AM

Targa,

Forget all the debbie downers, YOU did the right thing. Yes it's sad that it will leave the family, but the fact that you put it for sale means a lot of it's value to you.

Your a good guy.

ZLP 03-30-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterVonWurst (Post 5266964)

Whether you agree and/or like it or not, you are now on the BATFE's "little black book list". You should have made an anonymous inquiry about the weapon BEFORE auctioning it.

Best of luck to you. SmileWavy

Of course he is! But since he has time to make thousands and thousands of posts in off topic he is by default smarter than the rest of us.

tabs 03-30-2010 12:05 PM

Let me be nice Targa U were a complete FOOL for putting that GUN up for sale without checking on its status...as a controled item...It could have remained buried in the back yard forever. However once you made the move to advertise your hands werre more or less tied...either get an attorney as your advocate or call the BATF...Doing nothing and selling it might have landed you in stir...

tabs 03-30-2010 12:07 PM

There is no such thing as an anonymous call to the BATF...

dhoward 03-30-2010 12:13 PM

"NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition."

Dueller 03-30-2010 12:42 PM

Classified as AOW (any other weapon) by ATF...see this link (look about 3rd from bottom...specifically called a 12 ga tear gas launcher: ATF Online - Firearms - Guides - Identification of Firearms

targa911S 03-30-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 5267195)
Classified as AOW (any other weapon) by ATF...see this link (look about 3rd from bottom...specifically called a 12 ga tear gas launcher: ATF Online - Firearms - Guides - Identification of Firearms


So that means I pay $200 to keep it, and $5.00 to transfer it ...? Or what?

Mine does fit the bill here.

targa911S 03-30-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZLP (Post 5267070)
Of course he is! But since he has time to make thousands and thousands of posts in off topic he is by default smarter than the rest of us.

Well grasshopper, I joined the gang here in 2002 that averages out to about 2.36 posts per day. Plus I'm retired. Got all the time in the world. Now get back to yer cubical before your supervisor catches you.

ODDJOB UNO 03-30-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5267265)
Well grasshopper, I joined the gang here in 2002 that averages out to about 2.36 posts per day. Plus I'm retired. Got all the time in the world. Now get back to yer cubical before your supervisor catches you.

hahaha that was good.


my humble obnoxious opin-yon.......................hell yes you did the right thing.


now if i haphazardly stumbled upon some QUAD .50 mount on say a 1/2 track stuffed in some old barn/mineshaft somewheres, i would be tempted to stay quiet.


for about 10 seconds.................because i KNOW the class 3 laws. and to go down for a stoopid ass piss ant curio bangstick is not worth it unless ya want to join BIG LOUIE in LEVENWORTH or some other poo hole the govt runs.


as far as WACO.................koresh was an ILLEGAL CLASS 3 possessor. if its ILLEGAL for me w/out proper certs,its ILLEGAL for EVERYJUAN! and thats the law. PERIOD!


and theres a REASON! for the the general safety of the public. and guess WHAT???


I'M THE PUBLIC! who the HELL wants some mental case freeking RETARD/METH HEAD/FELON in possession of a class 3???????????????


i totally support your call to BATF. i would DO THE EXACT SAME!


im lucky if i got 25 years left on my enduro meter...........i aint spending it behind bars for a STOOPID ILLEGAL GUN or PART!


crap all i have to do is set up my living trust will and i can LEGALLY OWN/POSSESS CLASS 3 anything.

Looking_for_911 03-30-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 5265715)
This is why you have an attorney buddy make the inquiries on your behalf.

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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 5265715)
And possibly negotiates an interpretation that keeps it legal. But it's good that you did the legal thing with it. You don't need the hassle.


A wise ol' hound dog attorney friend of mine told me one time, "Son, you never kick a sleeping dog!"

I think this could apply here.

motion 03-30-2010 02:13 PM

Every time I've ever tried to do the right thing involving a government agency, I got screwed handily. Lets face it, the people running and working for these programs are incompetent. They could care less if you're trying to do the right thing. Its just laugh material for them on their next watercooler break. As anyone in any eastern european country will tell you: Lay Low. Its no different here. You make waves and draw attention, they're going to come for you.

targa911S 03-30-2010 02:14 PM

So even though I have reported it and I am waiting for them to set up an appointment to come and get it, am I in jeopardy?

jriera 03-30-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5267250)
So that means I pay $200 to keep it, and $5.00 to transfer it ...? Or what?

Mine does fit the bill here.

Yes .. If you want to keep it ... the amount of paper is going to be considerable, probably even a Form4

Or you can always say that is a flare launcher initiated by 12ga ... just saying ..

Shaun @ Tru6 03-30-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 5265706)
mmm chili. Shaun is hooked. I can start charging him a LOT of money now.

I'll be at your door on April 24, some time in the late afternoon, for more. :D

targa911S 03-30-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jriera (Post 5267378)
Yes .. If you want to keep it ... the amount of paper is going to be considerable, probably even a Form4

Or you can always say that is a flare launcher initiated by 12ga ... just saying ..

Not worth the hassle. I'll give it up.

Rick Lee 03-30-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 5267372)
Every time I've ever tried to do the right thing involving a government agency, I got screwed handily. Lets face it, the people running and working for these programs are incompetent. They could care less if you're trying to do the right thing. Its just laugh material for them on their next watercooler break. As anyone in any eastern european country will tell you: Lay Low. Its no different here. You make waves and draw attention, they're going to come for you.

Excellent advice.

Remember why we have the BATF and a lot of these stupid fed. gun laws. The Nat. Firearms Act was passed in 1934 because the repeal of Prohibition left a lot of Treasury agents with not enough to do. Silencers were actually included here because the Great Depression was so bad that poaching livestock was a concern and silencers made such poaching easier. We got an update to the law in 1968 after the assassinations of the last few years. Can anyone claim those laws have cut down on crime in the least? Banning machine guns didn't put Al Capone out of business. The IRS did.

Now, where BATF is a needed agency is in the area of bomb investigations. No one knows more about this stuff and they have the experts and the database to really solve some incredible crimes. But the gun law stuff is total BS.

targa911S 03-30-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 5267383)
I'll be at your door on April 24, some time in the late afternoon, for more. :D

COOL!! We will go directly to the source so you can enjoy it in it's true environment.

You have my address right? I

Tishabet 03-30-2010 02:28 PM

I don't get why anyone would be beating up on targa911S for this; given that he had it for sale on a public site, what he did subsequently was the only reasonable course of action.

Whether you think the BATF is a bunch of bozos or not is really not the point... when the bozos have the ability to make a case on you and throw you in jail, you do what you have to do. What's to second guess here?

targa911S 03-30-2010 02:30 PM

Thank you.


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