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LeeH 11-01-2010 01:23 PM

Someone's breaking in... how much time before you are armed?
 
SammyG's thread got me thinking...

With a 10 year old in the house, we have multiple steps to get to a loaded gun.

If someone were trying to crash through your front door how long would it take you to be armed?

What's the safest way to speed up the process?

widgeon13 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

Not very long at all.

azasadny 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

10 seconds...

vash 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

sammy's thread has me thinking too! i am not so much gonna speed up my readiness; i am going to focus on slowing down some idiots entry.

but i have stuff all over the house. loaded. no kids. when kids do come over, i make my rounds and unload and put everything away.

if i am in my bedroom, a handgun is mere inches away.

JR Indy 11-01-2010 01:27 PM

It had me thinking too...I don't own a weapon. So, if the experts could also add in the tradeoffs for each weapon of choice. Handgun, Shotgun, ?

Seahawk 11-01-2010 01:30 PM

I have a gun on every floor of the house, and carry one in my truck on the weekends. That and dogs.

I live in a rural area and everyone hunts and shoots. The only thing we worry about are those that have malice aforethought.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-01-2010 01:31 PM

5 seconds tops. That's from any room except if I'm in the middle of pinching a loaf (and even then I might opt to get up off the pot, retrieve, rack, safety off and aim which could be done pretty quickly - just deal with the streaks later).

legion 11-01-2010 01:32 PM

Depends on where I am in the house.

It's waking up and recognizing what is going on that concerns me the most. After that, time to spoon (TTS) is negligible.

Rednine11 11-01-2010 01:35 PM

instantly. I have no kids so I keep a loaded 40 cal Glock with Nite sights on my night stand. I also keep a loaded 12 GA pump Shotgun in the corner.. My wife keeps a loaded double action snub nose 38 in her top drawer.....I carry the Glock at all times. When I go to bed it sits on the stand beside me

Burnin' oil 11-01-2010 01:36 PM

A second or two. We have a fenced yard with three dogs, who sometimes make me a bit nervous, and security doors. We are also lit up at night. I don't see a home invasion dude picking our house in the first place, much less making it to, and through, the door without a welcoming party.

Hugh R 11-01-2010 01:37 PM

Too long.

stomachmonkey 11-01-2010 01:38 PM

Been researching different safe options lately.

Biometric seems to be the safest in terms of kids in the house but I worry it will decide to die only when I need it.

Anyone have any experience with them?

cgarr 11-01-2010 01:46 PM

What ever you do just make sure the wife takes them out, a lot less questions are asked!

azasadny 11-01-2010 01:51 PM

Flashlight, cellphone and pistol are always standing by where I have placed them...

HHI944 11-01-2010 01:56 PM

When my P9S isn't on my person, it's either on the coffee table or in the mattress holster. Aside from that, there's a Kel Tec and a Smith .357 that make their rounds of the house, a full size Mossy 500 in the closet around the corner from the foyer (loaded with 00) There's also the '94 to contend with, though it's usually in my bedroom.

No kids in residence or that visit, so I keep stuff where it's most convenient.

Head416 11-01-2010 02:00 PM

I have two handguns (his and hers) in a combo-lock case under the bed. The idea is unlock/unlatch before bed, lock before leaving in the morning to prevent unauthorized access by small people.

In reality we seldom have children at our house, so the case stays unlocked and unlatched 99% of the time. Once I realize I want it, I'll have my handgun ready to go in seconds. When nieces/nephews come over the case gets locked, even though they aren't allowed upstairs by themselves.

stogie25 11-01-2010 02:00 PM

As long as it takes to pull the 12g pump from under my bed and rack a round.

nynor 11-01-2010 02:08 PM

i am already armed....

my pistola is pretty ready at hand. plus, i have a 140lb dog. she isn't fat. and she is louder than ten loud things. i've seen delivery guys shart when they saw her and heard her.

jyl 11-01-2010 02:08 PM

Run upstairs, tap a keypad, pull out a Glock w/ magazine in place, cycle the slide. 20 sec?

Get a fingerprint or electronic keypad pistol safe, put it somewhere accessible but high.

Quote:

<a href="http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/572955-called-911-first-time-yesterday.html" target="_blank">SammyG's thread got me thinking...</a> <br>
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With a 10 year old in the house, we have multiple steps to get to a loaded gun. <br>
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If someone were trying to crash through your front door how long would it take you to be armed? <br>
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What's the safest way to speed up the process?

Jagshund 11-01-2010 02:12 PM

Depends on the room. Bedroom, 2 seconds. Living room, 10 seconds. But that's not including being armed with a mind like a computer and fists like steel.

ODDJOB UNO 11-01-2010 02:13 PM

about 1.2 pico seconds. any faster i would have to have my coffee.


have mentioned this here before. my drill is EVERY DAY i rotate spoons. that means i legally carry a different spoon everyday and night.

this does a multitude of positive things.

1) i have to dress for each. some are easier.

2) i empty mags and rotate rounds and refill weekly. no springs taking a set.

3) all depends on what i have to do that day. summers its always a .380 or 9mm compact.

4) winters compact .45,full size .45, .357 all depends.

5) every night its usually go to safe and grab various shotguns. take rounds and load magtube. place by bed. pistol loaded w/(1) in pipe ALWAYS when home alone. both are out of initial sight.

6) never do i leave home with spoon stashed, always placed in safe. so bad guy cant take my spoon and use it against me when i come home.

7) whenever i remove one or place one in safe it gets a once over cleaning with shop rag. any lint dust removed.

8) this comes from a neighbor being murdered in downey calif. on my doorstep and another girl being murdered 400 yds from my house here where i live presently out in the dezert. and the incident in the USFS campground up in camp verde 2 summers ago.

9) i lock all doors behind me ALL THE TIME!

10) i dont go anywhere without a spoon. i go out to my outbuildings day or night..........i have a spoon.


11) paranoid??????????? you bet yer azz please see numba 8!

12) i am a product of my society. and what YOU read and what YOU hear aint EVEN THE WHOLE UGLY PICTURE! and when the cops are scared...................IM REALLY REALLY FEEKING AFEARED!

13) ghetto bird circling my house last night for about 45minutes. hmmmm maybe they were dropping candy to all the lil kids..........................NOT!

14) CRIME IS EVERYWHERE! homey dont lak crime.

Chocaholic 11-01-2010 02:46 PM

Don't own a gun and probably never will. With three kids in the house we will rely on a very protective 140 lb English Mastiff, an 80 lb chow/boxer/lab mix, and a pussy cat Golden Retriever that will alert the other two before the bad guy farts two blocks away.

The odds of a bad accident occuring in a house with three kids far outweighs the infinitessimal odds of actually using a firearm for self protection.

gtc 11-01-2010 02:46 PM

15 seconds, tops, depending on my spoon of choich.

But then, I've got this little guy who will be the first to say hello to any visitors (with his teeth):
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1288651531.jpg

Head416 11-01-2010 02:48 PM

I don't trust electronic devices for something this important. Malfunction? Dead batteries?

(Note, I work in IT! I've seen what happens when fingerprint reader starts feeling tempermental.)

I don't trust keys if kids are around. What if they find them?

I trust combos, but they take too long. That's why I make sure it's unlocked before I go to bed.

ODDJOB UNO 11-01-2010 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 5649197)
Don't own a gun and probably never will. With three kids in the house we will rely on a very protective 140 lb English Mastiff, an 80 lb chow/boxer/lab mix, and a pussy cat Golden Retriever that will alert the other two before the bad guy farts two blocks away.

The odds of a bad accident occuring in a house with three kids far outweighs the infinitessimal odds of actually using a firearm for self protection.


do you think bad guys care about yer kids?



simple solution: you buy gun safe. period. and YOU instinctively place it there just like you drink your coffee every morning or you carry concealed and it is always on yer person..................like ME!


i get up, unload round. put shorts on, place spoon in pocket, let dog out, drink my coffee outside every day. go in, take spoon out of pocket, place by shower and take shower, get dressed, holster spoon.


i had (2) kids also. whenever that spoon was in house, it was EMPTY w/mag removed. no ifs and or butts and placed in safe.

MysticLlama 11-01-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtc (Post 5649201)
15 seconds, tops, depending on my spoon of choich.

But then, I've got this little guy who will be the first to say hello to any visitors (with his teeth):
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1288651531.jpg

Is that Bullitt in the background there? In green even? ;)

VINMAN 11-01-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 5649035)
but i have stuff all over the house. loaded. no kids. when kids do come over, i make my rounds and unload and put everything away.

if i am in my bedroom, a handgun is mere inches away.

Ditto this.

Plus after our incident, I have made the wife more proficient also.

Jeff Higgins 11-01-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1968Cayman (Post 5649133)
Depends on the room. Bedroom, 2 seconds. Living room, 10 seconds. But that's not including being armed with a mind like a computer and fists like steel.

At my age, it's more like fists like a computer (probably wouldn't boot up in time, and I've misplaced the password) and a mind like steel (kinda rusty). So I'm armed instead. Like you, bedroom - two seconds. Living room, maybe ten. I'll add downstairs in the garage - two. In the gunroom/den - at least ten minutes. Too many choices...;)

vonsmog 11-01-2010 03:49 PM

About 30 seconds, and I got to find out how fast one night about 3:00 am! Loud knocking which turned into pounding one night, sounded like someone was kicking in the front door! Grabbed the 9mm and came down the stairs yelling for them to get away! Found out it was the cops, they started yelling to put the gun down, so I went half way up the stairs and set it down, and opened the door. They said they had a 911 call from my house, only thing was my phone was on the fritz since the afternoon and the wires got crossed somewhere. They said they were sorry and never even checked to see if I had a permit for the gun, but then they probably already knew I did.

gtc 11-01-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticLlama (Post 5649256)
Is that Bullitt in the background there? In green even? ;)

HIGHLAND GREEN actually. SmileWavy

Zeke 11-01-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 5649197)
Don't own a gun and probably never will. With three kids in the house we will rely on a very protective 140 lb English Mastiff, an 80 lb chow/boxer/lab mix, and a pussy cat Golden Retriever that will alert the other two before the bad guy farts two blocks away.

The odds of a bad accident occuring in a house with three kids far outweighs the infinitessimal odds of actually using a firearm for self protection.

But then you don't get to boast about how many spoons you have and how fast you can get them ready to blow someone away.

red-beard 11-01-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 5649033)
not very long at all.

+1

id10t 11-01-2010 04:20 PM

I can be armed instantly. To actually get to a gun, a few minutes but I may not need to since the wife is closer.

944Larry 11-01-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 5649027)
SammyG's thread got me thinking...

With a 10 year old in the house, we have multiple steps to get to a loaded gun.

If someone were trying to crash through your front door how long would it take you to be armed?

What's the safest way to speed up the process?

ex-military 12 ga. pump that hold 10 rounds
44 mag and 38 special all located in strategic places around house (no kids)
9MM in car
4 dogs of which 2 are Blue Heelers and those 2 don't miss ANYTHING. All in all I feel (fairly) safe.

red-beard 11-01-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 5649361)
I can be armed instantly. To actually get to a gun, a few minutes but I may not need to since the wife is closer.

True. You don't need to be the fastest, just faster than the slowest in the herd...SmileWavy

john70t 11-01-2010 04:50 PM

Too long. But every throw-able object(glasses, chairs, etc) between myself and plan a will be utilized while on that journey.

944Larry 11-01-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO (Post 5649135)
about 1.2 pico seconds. any faster i would have to have my coffee.


have mentioned this here before. my drill is EVERY DAY i rotate spoons. that means i legally carry a different spoon everyday and night.

this does a multitude of positive things.

1) i have to dress for each. some are easier.

2) i empty mags and rotate rounds and refill weekly. no springs taking a set.

3) all depends on what i have to do that day. summers its always a .380 or 9mm compact.

4) winters compact .45,full size .45, .357 all depends.

5) every night its usually go to safe and grab various shotguns. take rounds and load magtube. place by bed. pistol loaded w/(1) in pipe ALWAYS when home alone. both are out of initial sight.

6) never do i leave home with spoon stashed, always placed in safe. so bad guy cant take my spoon and use it against me when i come home.

7) whenever i remove one or place one in safe it gets a once over cleaning with shop rag. any lint dust removed.

8) this comes from a neighbor being murdered in downey calif. on my doorstep and another girl being murdered 400 yds from my house here where i live presently out in the dezert. and the incident in the USFS campground up in camp verde 2 summers ago.

9) i lock all doors behind me ALL THE TIME!

10) i dont go anywhere without a spoon. i go out to my outbuildings day or night..........i have a spoon.


11) paranoid??????????? you bet yer azz please see numba 8!

12) i am a product of my society. and what YOU read and what YOU hear aint EVEN THE WHOLE UGLY PICTURE! and when the cops are scared...................IM REALLY REALLY FEEKING AFEARED!

13) ghetto bird circling my house last night for about 45minutes. hmmmm maybe they were dropping candy to all the lil kids..........................NOT!

14) CRIME IS EVERYWHERE! homey dont lak crime.

you might need to get better armed. I ran across the following;
Is Crime Making a Comeback? 12 Crime Statistics That Make You Wonder What Is Happening To America

id10t 11-01-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 5649405)
Too long. But every throw-able object(glasses, chairs, etc) between myself and plan a will be utilized while on that journey.

The *real* reason I like an IBM model M keyboard - you can console the poor basterds... with an all steel console :)

Laneco 11-01-2010 06:48 PM

Baseball bat under the bed. Armed in .2 seconds. Heard something in the backyard last night and went out with the bat to investigate. Scared the snot out of Steve's hound dog - LOL!

We do not keep the handguns accessible, but now that Steve is out of country, I'm rethinking that decision. Think I'll grab the Sig and keep it a bit closer. Meantime, beware of red hair, estrogen and the Easton aluminum bat. :D

angela

red-beard 11-01-2010 06:53 PM

For those in Texas, Academy Sports has Sig 9mms on sale.


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