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varmint 01-23-2011 08:30 AM

there is simply no legal way to own something like that. it had to have been stolen from a national guard armory in the first place. and even simple possession is a felony.


my advice would be to chuck it in the swamp and never mention it again. telling the authorities will bring tons of unwanted attention. if the bomb squad guys are feeling nervous they might even decide to detonate it in place.

cashflyer 01-23-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 5802638)
there is simply no legal way to own something like that. it had to have been stolen from a national guard armory in the first place. and even simple possession is a felony.

This is another reason I would not notify the police or ATF.
Too many hard questions to answer; all of which can end with new bracelets.
Or at the least, attorney fees.

trekkor 01-23-2011 10:18 AM

Next thing you know, they'll be burning your house down...


KT

Jim Bremner 01-23-2011 10:28 AM

Lawyer.

targa911S 01-23-2011 11:07 AM

Chucking it in the swamp is the easy way to go but still reckless. It could show up again and kill somebody. Even though they could not connect the dots to you, it would still be blood on your hands.
I KNOW I will get flamed for this but, Ya'll may recall an encounter I had with BATF about a year ago over a tear gas baton that I found in my grandfathers possessions, and that I indeed did call them to make sure I was not breaking any laws by selling it on Gunbroker. I'm a gunsmith and had a LOT to lose by pissing BATF off. It was an illegal device and was informed by them that they would come and get it and dispose of it. I took a LOT of heat here for doing that. However my experience with the BATF special agent was a very positive experience. No jack booted guys jumped out of a black helicopter or nothing. Nobody threatened me or treated me like a criminal. Actually the agent was about my sons age, 30's, dressed like a normal person, no black suit and shades, and was courteous and respectful. If you have not taken possession of this device DO NOT and just go about your biz. If you have, GET RID OF IT. Just call BATF they will get it off your hands. If you are scared your experience will not be as good as mine, have a lawyer present, at the least have their phone number ready. You can tell your friend what you have found out here and let him make the choice of what to do, but if you do not have it in your possession, for God's sake don't go near it. You can see the tangled web it forms.

Esel Mann 01-23-2011 11:15 AM

Well whatever the outcome of this situation, and however 1979 930's friend decides to handle it, I do hope nobody gets hurt!

Grenade Explosions Rock Neighborhood - News Archive Story - WESH Orlando

cashflyer 01-23-2011 11:48 AM

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Chucking it in the swamp is the easy way to go but still reckless. It could show up again and kill somebody.
To elaborate on my suggestion (go fishing) I did intend for the pin to be pulled and the grenade chucked into the water to safely detonate well below the surface.

Differing from your situation, your gas baton was at one time legal. This grenade was never legal. Somebody will be answering questions as to how it came into their possession. Nobody wants to try and do the right thing, only to see a friend or family member indicted. If he does decide to turn it in, I suggest having it handled by an attorney.

Somebody has some choices to be made.


With regard to the Orlando news story, it is a concussion grenade, not a frag. It has a lot less TNT than a frag. Though it can injure and maim in close proximity, it would not "rock a neighborhood" if it went off.

Glad to see no charges were filed in that situation.


http://www.marineshop.net/prodimg/101557.jpg

azasadny 01-23-2011 12:14 PM

If someone see you detonating a grenade at a like, etc... it would have been much better to call the local police dept and explain what was found. Just make sure there isn't anything else around you wouldn't want them to see...

dhoward 01-23-2011 12:21 PM

The best thing to do is to be afraid of everything.

porsche4life 01-23-2011 12:23 PM

Sounds like he needs to go deep sea fishing.... Oh about 13mi out....

1979 930 01-23-2011 12:46 PM

Told him to call a lawyer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sounds like a hot potato do not need to be the last guy holding that one!:D:D:D

cgarr 01-23-2011 01:06 PM

And then my Son heads out on his flight thru the airport wearing his favorite shirt!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...91/grenade.jpg

1979 930 01-23-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cgarr (Post 5803085)
And then my Son heads out on his flight thru the airport wearing his favorite shirt!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...91/grenade.jpg

that"s what he said it looked like, I told him to send me a photo but I do not think he's going to.

Schumi 01-23-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1979 930 (Post 5803104)
that"s what he said it looked like, I told him to send me a photo but I do not think he's going to.

that would be a fragmentation grenade; a people-killer. no legit reason to have a live one at all.

azasadny 01-23-2011 01:50 PM

When I was a Hospital Corpsman, stationed at Camp Pendleton, around 1986-88, I lived in a ratty house with a bunch of other guys in Oceanside, CA. I came home from work one day to see some kids playing with a USMC "ball style" grenade in the grass. I got them away from it, called the Oceanside PD and they arrived with a USMC EOD vehicle. They picked up the grenade, placed it in the vehicle, detonated it and left. No muss, no fuss. The EOD vehicle was so stout that I barely heard the grenade when it blew. I'm sure glad those kids didn't get hurt...

UconnTim97 01-23-2011 03:05 PM

Flush it down the toilet. What's the worst that can happen?


(Please don't do that...)

1979 930 01-23-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UconnTim97 (Post 5803289)
Flush it down the toilet. What's the worst that can happen?


(Please don't do that...)

pipes are pvc not case iron (I'm thinking S**T all over the place)
but would be funny if i was a RENTER ;)

Jim Bremner 01-23-2011 04:22 PM

When I was in Jr High back in the early Reagan days we had a kid Nicknamed "Skinny" He was 6'2" and about 190#'s

Skinny almost always wore fatiques and a swamp hat. One day we had a substitute teacher. Skinny pulls out a drilled in the bottom Frag gernade out of a cargo pocket of his pants and starts playing with it!

The Sub poos herself but demands the gernade. Skinny pulled the pin, squezed the spoon and handed it to her!

She ran out of the classroom with it at arms lenght screaming all the way to the principals office.

EOD wasn't called but we never did see Dale "Skinny" at school again!

It was funny back then, but if my wife was the sub I wouldn't laugh at it today.

1979 930 01-23-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 5803446)
When I was in Jr High back in the early Reagan days we had a kid Nicknamed "Skinny" He was 6'2" and about 190#'s

Skinny almost always wore fatiques and a swamp hat. One day we had a substitute teacher. Skinny pulls out a drilled in the bottom Frag gernade out of a cargo pocket of his pants and starts playing with it!

The Sub poos herself but demands the gernade. Skinny pulled the pin, squezed the spoon and handed it to her!

She ran out of the classroom with it at arms lenght screaming all the way to the principals office.

EOD wasn't called but we never did see Dale "Skinny" at school again!

It was funny back then, but if my wife was the sub I wouldn't laugh at it today.

come on, you would laugh a little bit!!!!

Jim Bremner 01-23-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1979 930 (Post 5803484)
come on, you would laugh a little bit!!!!

yup, but NOT in front of her!


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