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RWebb 04-02-2011 02:33 PM

Suspended from School
 
why?

Teen suspended for outing porn star school secretary - thestar.com

masraum 04-02-2011 02:45 PM

OK, I bet that at least 90% of the folks that look at this thread do a google image search for Samantha Ardente (the secretary's porn name).

I guess that'll teach her to hand out autographs instead of snubbing her fans!!

Yeah, I can't see any valid reason why he'd have been suspended.

bivenator 04-02-2011 02:54 PM

Im guessing his suspension came from creating a false facebook page of her. This does seem like a non school issue but what do I know.

UconnTim97 04-02-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 5939852)
OK, I bet that at least 90% of the folks that look at this thread do a google image search for Samantha Ardente (the secretary's porn name).

Snip...

Guilty.

Brando 04-02-2011 03:16 PM

Seems to me like she was a real amateur.

john70t 04-02-2011 03:30 PM

"The boy had asked her for an autograph. Ardente wouldn’t give him one and asked him to keep quiet about the matter."
-Attempted blackmail.

"The boy then created a Facebook page in her name,"
-Identity theft, harassment, and stalking.

"complete with a racy photo of her in her undies."
-Stealing copyrighted media from another business. Minor in posession of adult materials with distribution.

sammyg2 04-02-2011 07:47 PM

Cause he's a low-life little dork that created a fake facebook page under someone else's name and posted racy photographs of her without her knowledge?
That'd be my guess.

And no, I didn't bother doing a search.

legion 04-02-2011 09:58 PM

I looked her up. I wish I hadn't. She's got a face that's made for radio.

HHI944 04-02-2011 10:38 PM

+1
The body isn't that great either (don't get me wrong, I'd hit it, I'd just need a paper bag...)

1990C4S 04-03-2011 09:39 AM

The school boards position is that she 'performed' knowing the movies and pictures would be sold. Had it been a private video or pictures that were released without her consent then she would not have been fired.

I suspect she will have a legal case for wrongful dismissal. The 'value' of the claim will depend on her losses (hoe soon she finds a job) and her years of service. I doubt she will get much out of it. Aside from more 'fame'.

Bottom line: Don't make porn videos and expect to stay employed at the Catholic school board. It's not rocket science...

masraum 04-03-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 5941028)
The school boards position is that she 'performed' knowing the movies and pictures would be sold. Had it been a private video or pictures that were released without her consent then she would not have been fired.

I suspect she will have a legal case for wrongful dismissal. The 'value' of the claim will depend on her losses (hoe soon she finds a job) and her years of service. I doubt she will get much out of it. Aside from more 'fame'.

Bottom line: Don't make porn videos and expect to stay employed at the Catholic school board. It's not rocket science...

You totally missed the point. I don't think anyone was surprised that the secretary was fired.

What was a little surprising is that the kid was suspended from school.

john70t 04-03-2011 09:57 AM

Common sense notwithstanding, there exists an arguable issue of public(ish) responsibility vs. private expression of freedoms.

The teacher's other business was targeted at an audience far removed from her work environment.

The boy's actions were deliberately public and meant to injure.

1990C4S 04-03-2011 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 5941047)
You totally missed the point. I don't think anyone was surprised that the secretary was fired.

What was a little surprising is that the kid was suspended from school.

Oops. I never read the link because I read the article online a while ago.

They both acted 'improperly'. It could also be argued the students actions were immoral. But I don't think either committed a crime.

RWebb 04-03-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 5939921)
"The boy had asked her for an autograph. Ardente wouldn’t give him one and asked him to keep quiet about the matter."
-Attempted blackmail.

"The boy then created a Facebook page in her name,"
-Identity theft, harassment, and stalking.

"complete with a racy photo of her in her undies."
-Stealing copyrighted media from another business. Minor in posession of adult materials with distribution.

blackmail no way on the facts presented; not clear if any other charges might stick; the last idea appears to be a purely civil matter

I wonder if that school has some policy manual re student conduct (more restrictive than the law)...

911pcars 04-03-2011 07:06 PM

"The boy had asked her for an autograph. Ardente wouldn’t give him one and asked him to keep quiet about the matter."
-Attempted blackmail.


John70T,
Good summary. However, there doesn't seem to be a threat here lacking compliance to the request. IMHO, declining a request, then asking doesn't constitute blackmail. Instead, if she said, "I'll make you a man if you don't tell" - that is either blackmail or an excellent school year.

I agree with the other charges you describe:
"The boy then created a Facebook page in her name,"
-Identity theft, harassment, and stalking.

"complete with a racy photo of her in her undies."
-Stealing copyrighted media from another business. Minor in posession of adult materials with distribution.


Sherwood

911pcars 04-03-2011 07:28 PM

And to be fair to Ms. Ardente:

Fair play for 'Samantha Ardente'

S

RWebb 04-03-2011 07:35 PM

is it illegal to create a web site using the name of somebody else - e.g. say I created JanetGreen.com

-- legal?

Brando 04-03-2011 07:46 PM

I guess that depends on Canadian identity theft laws? Is it impersonation? As I read it, the kid created a facebook page, not a website.

911pcars 04-03-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 5941982)
is it illegal to create a web site using the name of somebody else - e.g. say I created JanetGreen.com

-- legal?

I visited a Howard Johnson's awhile back and .........

Can I call my website - Webbsite.com? Am I okay with that since your name is in it? I think so.

I would think it depends on your objectives of the JanetGreen website and how you may or may not portray the Janet Greens of the world. However, if you registered the URL, it's yours. Try IBM.com for greater potential income (probably taken already). :)

Sherwood

RWebb 04-03-2011 09:08 PM

Dignitary torts

Defamation: The communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an entity.

Invasion of privacy: The unlawful intrusion into the personal life of another person without just cause.

Breach of confidence: Protects private information conveyed in confidence; typically requires that the information be of a confidential nature, communicated in confidence, and was disclosed to the detriment of the claimant.


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