Porsche tractor

[redstrosekNic]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Your son did a great job fixing it up. Do you use it now? Those things were made to work.
It looks like a 2N rather than a 9N. It has most of the 2N features on it, but then a lot of 9Ns were updated with 2N parts.

LOL, it was bmcuscgr94's son. I hope I don't have kids for a long time!
My 9N is not nearly as nice, but everything does work. I use it to plow snow in the winter, pull my scag out of the yard when it gets stuck in the spring, and to brush-hog some areas of our property. If I remember, I'll post some pics soon.

[bmcuscgr94]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Your son did a great job fixing it up. Do you use it now? Those things were made to work.
It looks like a 2N rather than a 9N. It has most of the 2N features on it, but then a lot of 9Ns were updated with 2N parts.

It was a 9n but the paint was the 8n scheme.

When my son and his buddy who worked on the project were walking off the stage after the awards ceremony at the fair, a gentleman walked up and offered them $10K for it.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by redstrosekNic

Not kinda cool, very cool! I would like to see one in person, as I have never seen anything other than pictures...

I would have more fun using that for work rather than the ford 9n I currently use

You might change your mind after using one. I used a Junior for an hour or so before I sold it. I had a 9N at the same time. That single cylinder engine sounded like someone banging on an old washtub and the tractor jumped up and down in rhythm with the engine. They are cool little tractors for show, but at work it was noisy, rough, and didn't have nearly the power of the Ford.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Well done!

+1 on that. I like the little Deere tug next to it too.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by bmcuscgr94

It was a 9n but the paint was the 8n scheme.

When my son and his buddy who worked on the project were walking off the stage after the awards ceremony at the fair, a gentleman walked up and offered them $10K for it.

They did a great job on it. I'm sure the whole experience was a great character and skill builder for them. If they could rebuild those things and sell them for $10k they should go into business! What's next for them?
Was the John Deere L in the background a kid project too?

[wdfifteen]

Here's a picture of a Porsche tractor I posted on the random transportation thread a few days ago.

[Mark Henry]

In case you're wondering why porsche would streamline a tractor it's not for speed
This tractor is called the "coffee train" and the bodywork was to prevent damage to the coffee plants.

[bmcuscgr94]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

They did a great job on it. I'm sure the whole experience was a great character and skill builder for them. If they could rebuild those things and sell them for $10k they should go into business! What's next for them?
Was the John Deere L in the background a kid project too?

They were all part of a program that gets high schoolers across the Country to find old tractors and restore them. Here its partially sponsored by Chevron and JB DeWar with help from our local high school auto program. Kids have to find a tractor, get sponsors/raise money and restore the tractor. Tractors are displayed and judged at the Mid-State Fair in Paso Robles CA. Some of these tractors take years to finish.

My son got accepted into Catapillar's Think Big Program. Went to school for two years with on the job training and is now working for a Cat dealer as a diesel tech. Cat paid for school, housing and tuition. His buddy is finishing up with the auto tech program at our local JC.

[Seahawk]

There is so much to love about what your son is doing...and Cat. You are no doubt as proud as can be.

Originally Posted by bmcuscgr94

They were all part of a program that gets high schoolers across the Country to find old tractors and restore them. Here its partially sponsored by Chevron and JB DeWar with help from our local high school auto program. Kids have to find a tractor, get sponsors/raise money and restore the tractor. Tractors are displayed and judged at the Mid-State Fair in Paso Robles CA. Some of these tractors take years to finish.

My son got accepted into Catapillar's Think Big Program. Went to school for two years with on the job training and is now working for a Cat dealer as a diesel tech. Cat paid for school, housing and tuition. His buddy is finishing up with the auto tech program at our local JC.

[intakexhaust]

Originally Posted by bmcuscgr94

Same here, would love to see one in person. my son restored an old ford tractor:

Beautiful and well done! Ford 9N. Great to see it and amazing to me as it brings back special memories. I did the same to a 9N while in high school and first years at a county vocational school in the 1970's. My father gave it to me as a project. I took every last nut and bolt out of it, and I mean everything... trans, diff, brakes, dist, hyd. 3 point hitch pump, etc.. Re-sleeved the cylinders, inserted valve guides, new engine parts, etc. About the only thing I didn't do was machine the head or grind the crank. My father was a dealer and figured it was the best experience for me and he was right on. I even painted it the same color as your sons but a purist knows they originally were all grey. Encouraging young kids into these projects should be required and some sort of basic trade skill would be the best thing for the future of this country. Thank you for showing it and congratulations

[bmcuscgr94]

Originally Posted by intakexhaust

Beautiful and well done! Ford 9N. Great to see it and amazing to me as it brings back special memories. I did the same to a 9N while in high school and first years at a county vocational school in the 1970's. My father gave it to me as a project. I took every last nut and bolt out of it, and I mean everything... trans, diff, brakes, dist, hyd. 3 point hitch pump, etc.. Re-sleeved the cylinders, inserted valve guides, new engine parts, etc. About the only thing I didn't do was machine the head or grind the crank. My father was a dealer and figured it was the best experience for me and he was right on. I even painted it the same color as your sons but a purist knows they originally were all grey. Encouraging young kids into these projects should be required and some sort of basic trade skill would be the best thing for the future of this country. Thank you for showing it and congratulations

Sounds like you did the same thing they did, they took it completely apart. Order replacement parts for the ones they couldn't fix, made a home-made paint booth in the barn sand blasted and painted everything.

[intakexhaust]

Originally Posted by bmcuscgr94

It was a 9n but the paint was the 8n scheme.

When my son and his buddy who worked on the project were walking off the stage after the awards ceremony at the fair, a gentleman walked up and offered them $10K for it.

Awesome but did they take it? Going back to my school day 9N project, my father sold it and I sort of was bummed about that. Got a pat on the back and another lesson learned - laugh.

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen
Your son did a great job fixing it up. Do you use it now? Those things were made to work.
It looks like a 2N rather than a 9N. It has most of the 2N features on it, but then a lot of 9Ns were updated with 2N parts.

Amazing machines and yes indeed, good for chores still to this day. Look at the number of 3 point implements that fit! 9N were the first and introduced in 1939. Thats what I had with the rare cast aluminum dash / steering gear housing and cast aluminum grill... not sheet metal. That aluminum gear housing (not cast iron) to hold the steering sectors was cracked, so I had a quick lesson in tig welding and did the best I could. Brake pedals were seperated but on both sides of the chassis. Had the 3 speed forward trans with an upgrade high - low Sherman box between the clutch and trans main shaft. Earliest had Fairbanks magneto and yes, crank start. 2N intro was 1942 and still had the 3 speed. Production continued in Dearborn thru the war years but since rubber was short, steel wheels were used. (Still have an original set). 8N was 1948 with a 4 speed and produced into 1952 and some 53. The flat head was replaced by the new overhead valve 4 cyl noted called the Jubillee (50th anniversary of Ford).

Sorry to ramble on the Ford but would love to have a Porsche Junior for fun.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by intakexhaust

Earliest had Fairbanks magneto and yes, crank start. 2N intro was 1942 and still had the 3 speed. Production continued in Dearborn thru the war years but since rubber was short, steel wheels were used. (Still have an original set).

2N steel wheels are pretty darn rare!
Henry hated magnetos for some reason. That's why the Model T and the Fordson had that unique (goofy) flywheel current generator/buzz box ignition system. When the Model A came out it was batteries and generators - never a magneto. All 9N tractors came with batteries and distributors. It wasn't until the war shortage of batteries and rubber, which forced the redesign of the 9N into the 2N in 1942, that he allowed magnetos on his tractors. By then he was so ill he may not have know it was being done. All 9Ns had batteries and distributors.

[Mark Henry]

When I moved in here (17yrs ago) there was an old (in his 80's) bachelor farmer across the street, he had owned his 9N from new.
He never had his licence, he drove the tractor into town if he had to go anywhere. Town is 20 minutes away going 65mph
How fast does a 9N go?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by intakexhaust

Amazing machines and yes indeed, good for chores still to this day. Look at the number of 3 point implements that fit! 9N were the first and introduced.

Indeed! Tom Alexander at N Complete sells remanufactured N series Fords for $9-10k. He sold a dozen of them to a logging company that had been using new John Deeres. They said the Ford can be fixed in a few minutes with a pocket full of tools and for the Deeres they needed to take a day to send a tech up the mountain with a computer analyzer so the tractor could tell him what hurt. They got more work done with less down time with 60 year old reman Fords than with new John Deeres!

[porsche4life]

Just watch out for that live PTO on the fords... Have friend that nearly lost his leg to one....

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Mark Henry

How fast does a 9N go?

They go about 13-14 mph out of the box. The 2N war models with steel wheels had a blocking plate that wouldn't let you select 3rd gear so they went slower. Harry Ferguson, who owned the company that distributed Ford tractors, and his partners the Sherman brothers sold an overdrive that allowed it to go about 18 mph.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Just watch out for that live PTO on the fords... Have friend that nearly lost his leg to one....

One of the N series Ford's biggest drawbacks is that it did NOT have live PTO or live hydraulics. The second most popular upgrade to a Ford N after the Sherman overdrive is a live hydraulic pump, but no one has come up with a viable live PTO system.
But yes, be careful around a spinning PTO shaft whether it is a live type or not.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by Mark Henry

In case you're wondering why porsche would streamline a tractor it's not for speed
This tractor is called the "coffee train" and the bodywork was to prevent damage to the coffee plants.

referred to in tractor circles as an "orchard tractor"..

[bmcuscgr94]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Indeed! Tom Alexander at N Complete sells remanufactured N series Fords for $9-10k. He sold a dozen of them to a logging company that had been using new John Deeres. They said the Ford can be fixed in a few minutes with a pocket full of tools and for the Deeres they needed to take a day to send a tech up the mountain with a computer analyzer so the tractor could tell him what hurt. They got more work done with less down time with 60 year old reman Fords than with new John Deeres!

So I'm seeing a trend here Porsche vs Ford (wait for it before taking a shot at me):

Both started building a peoples car that ended up making life better for many

both used inovative manufacturing to reduce the cost so people could afford the lower lines and making a quality product for the day.

Both went on to produce sports cars that were the dreams of their makers

Both used this knowledge to build tractors that have stood the test of time.

Ok, I'm done, fire at will.