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speeder 06-03-2012 08:10 PM

Old Ford starter question:
 
Trying to help a buddy today who has an old, (1989), Ford CV that will not start. It's either the starter or relay. I did not feel like jacking it up at his place to check starter today but here is question:

If relay clicks loudly, does that mean that it's bad? I can't remember the deal with those...TIA as always.

look 171 06-03-2012 09:01 PM

Can you jump or bypass the relay and see if it starts?

Mark Henry 06-03-2012 10:07 PM

If it's the on the fender solenoid just jump it and see if the starter works. On the solenoid make sure it has a good ground on the base to the body and if it is the solenoid they've cheap (>$20).

Rick V 06-04-2012 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 6783812)

If relay clicks loudly, does that mean that it's bad? I can't remember the deal with those...TIA as always.

If the relay clicks it just means it has B- and B+ for engagement, It doesn't mean it is sending B+ to the starter. A simple replay is actually two circuits in one box.

GWN7 06-04-2012 02:26 AM

A clicking relay can also mean the battery is low and there isn't enough power to fully engage the relay.

A buddy has a Ford pu of that vintage and it has two relays on it.

masraum 06-04-2012 03:58 AM

The first thing that I would check would be the solenoid which is probably what you're calling the relay. It should look something like this.
http://www.lamustang.com/SQLCart/Ima...rge/103205.jpg
Or the battery. I would get the battery load tested at a parts store, and pick up a new solenoid.

Mark Henry 06-04-2012 06:00 AM

That is the solenoid I was talking about, if the mount base doesn't have a good bolted to chassis ground it won't work. BTDT
I use these solenoids to cure the hot start issue on old VW's and 914's, I don't use the wimpy bosch horn relay.
I also agree with the others on the battery condition.

john70t 06-04-2012 10:01 AM

Start from scratch: K.I.S.S.(keep it simple stupid) principle.
-Rotate the engine with the crank pulley bolt. This ensures the motor is not binding
-Check all cable connections.
-Check battery level, load, and cranking rpm when it finally gets turning.

FLYGEEZER 06-04-2012 10:12 AM

If it ain't the relay try a couple of hammer blows to the starter. May be on a "dead" spot. Don't hit it too hard !

john70t 06-04-2012 11:19 AM

Yup to the direct soft mallet hits.
The starter bendix (teeter toter pivot for the main amp/load/gear connection) can get crusty over time.


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