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Old Ford starter question:

Trying to help a buddy today who has an old, (1989), Ford CV that will not start. It's either the starter or relay. I did not feel like jacking it up at his place to check starter today but here is question:

If relay clicks loudly, does that mean that it's bad? I can't remember the deal with those...TIA as always.

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Can you jump or bypass the relay and see if it starts?
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If it's the on the fender solenoid just jump it and see if the starter works. On the solenoid make sure it has a good ground on the base to the body and if it is the solenoid they've cheap (>$20).
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If relay clicks loudly, does that mean that it's bad? I can't remember the deal with those...TIA as always.
If the relay clicks it just means it has B- and B+ for engagement, It doesn't mean it is sending B+ to the starter. A simple replay is actually two circuits in one box.
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A clicking relay can also mean the battery is low and there isn't enough power to fully engage the relay.

A buddy has a Ford pu of that vintage and it has two relays on it.
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The first thing that I would check would be the solenoid which is probably what you're calling the relay. It should look something like this.

Or the battery. I would get the battery load tested at a parts store, and pick up a new solenoid.
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That is the solenoid I was talking about, if the mount base doesn't have a good bolted to chassis ground it won't work. BTDT
I use these solenoids to cure the hot start issue on old VW's and 914's, I don't use the wimpy bosch horn relay.
I also agree with the others on the battery condition.
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Start from scratch: K.I.S.S.(keep it simple stupid) principle.
-Rotate the engine with the crank pulley bolt. This ensures the motor is not binding
-Check all cable connections.
-Check battery level, load, and cranking rpm when it finally gets turning.
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If it ain't the relay try a couple of hammer blows to the starter. May be on a "dead" spot. Don't hit it too hard !
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Yup to the direct soft mallet hits.
The starter bendix (teeter toter pivot for the main amp/load/gear connection) can get crusty over time.

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