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7 days after that all the people who didn't plan ahead are real hungry. what do they do?

what happens to the people who did plan ahead when three months later new supplies still aren't coming in?
Yeah ever see same Kinison's rant about starving people in Africa? "Get your wife, get the kids, pack your crap and we'll MOVE YOU WHERE SOME FOOD IS!"

Truth is, there's no "stocking up" for an apocalypse - you'll eventually run out of supplies. It's not a natural disaster where you're waiting for the National Guard or the Red Cross to show up in a few days. The only practical course of action is to move to some place with a water supply, fertile soil, and learn to be self-sustaining, and be prepared to defend it. Anything less is kidding yourself.

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my house fits all of the above

water is close, 5 min walk
have enough land to grow food for household
and we are as defenseable as we can be-
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I think they will come up with some sort of "trillion dollar coin" thing .
'Magic coin' debt ceiling solution not worth much - Economy Watch on NBCNews.com
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I'm still waiting for a zombie show that doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics...
I'm doing the same for Global Warming theories
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where do the zombies come in ?
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They'll see you are well-equipped and just surround you and wait you out. Probably set a grass fire and burn you out or just overwhelm you with sheer numbers and superior firepower. That's how we did it to the American Indian when we zombie-apocalypsed them.
Mr. (I assume 'Mr.') BE911SC uses the word 'we' rather liberally here, then runs away.
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A recent topic among my circle of friends is how the so-called "zombie apocalypse" will actually happen.

One theory: US Government fails to find more foreign lenders to finance it's increasing debt burden, so can no longer fund the government. Everything, including entitlement programs, shut down. When welfare checks stop coming out, the recipients riot, causing general mayhem.

Another theory: California leads the rest of the US on debt, and goes bankrupt as a state. Poor folk across the state riot in mobs, killing for food out of sheer desperation. The rest of the country is deeply divided between bailing out California and selling the state to the Chinese, inciting riots and violent protests elsewhere.

A third: Gun-control activists pass legislation which allows the government to legally confiscate all guns (or all semi-autos, or whatever). Violent pockets of Second Amendment activists take a desperate last stand against the government troops. The country descends into civil war.

... I'd be curious for the best theories from this crowd. I'm sure we've got the creativity to come up with something more realistic!


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the first two aren't even remotely possible.

The third, based on what I see in PARF, could possibly be started, but would end quickly, and badly, for the insurrectionists; there is no chance whatsoever the country would descend into civil war.
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the first two aren't even remotely possible.

The third, based on what I see in PARF, could possibly be started, but would end quickly, and badly, for the insurrectionists; there is no chance whatsoever the country would descend into civil war.
And why not?
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why not what? please be specific.
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I really loved that movie.....I AM LEGEND. Unfortunately I don't think Obama is the savior of humanity, rather, he is probably the cause of it's demise.
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Mr. (I assume 'Mr.') BE911SC uses the word 'we' rather liberally here, then runs away.
Nope, still here.
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Zombies aren't the only people who eat people

too many of this (people) + not enough of that (food) = Zombie Apocalypse

When I saw this movie as a kid I thought the cop was wrong to blow the lid on the soylent green works. What were the starving people supposed to eat?

Once you get past the stomach-mind objection (like eating monkey or horse or cobra blood or crickets or my wife's meatloaf) then soylent green is just another food source.

Take away the soylent green and you've got people harvesting free-range people for the backyard BBQ. Check out The Road (Cormac McCarthy). Not zombies, per se, just hungry. But pretty much the same thing.

OK, time for lunch.



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the first two aren't even remotely possible.

The third, based on what I see in PARF, could possibly be started, but would end quickly, and badly, for the insurrectionists; there is no chance whatsoever the country would descend into civil war.
The original post assumes some sort of direct military action like a battlefield. But history shows clearly that oppressed people do not fight that way. They fight as 'insurgents'. I think the American public would make a formidable enemy, especially when you consider that many in the military would not turn against the public.
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I've spent a significant amount of time working with our men and women in uniform. While there is always respect for his role as Commander in Chief, you will be hard pressed to find a group that more strongly dislike Obama than our military. Obviously based on my experiences at various bases over the last few years, but I can't see many of them taking his side in a civil war.
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The original post assumes some sort of direct military action like a battlefield. But history shows clearly that oppressed people do not fight that way. They fight as 'insurgents'. I think the American public would make a formidable enemy, especially when you consider that many in the military would not turn against the public.
I'm not sure how far anyone would get with no phone, no internet, no electricity, no gas/cars, no credit cards, no money, and no food and not much ammunition.

in this day, everything is watched, tracked and everything can be turned on and turned off with ease. Government has technology and business has information, control. Insurgents have rifles. no match.

Big business will always side with government, it owns it, and will help it, quid pro quo. All business likes customers, it doesn't like chaos, and no one buying their products. As a business owner, I don't see an insurgency promising anything that would get me, or anyone over to their side. The degree to which the economy/business climate deteriorates that Business, large and small, sides with a revolution, will not be seen in our lifetime. and most likely ever.

Guns are important in a revolution. I'd rather have software and electrical engineers.
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I've spent a significant amount of time working with our men and women in uniform. While there is always respect for his role as Commander in Chief, you will be hard pressed to find a group that more strongly dislike Obama than our military. Obviously based on my experiences at various bases over the last few years, but I can't see many of them taking his side in a civil war.
Bingo! There might be orders for them to go after the populace but guessing that without a real good reason for it, 99% of them would refuse to do so.

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