Me 262

[varmint]

60 years after the birth of the Me 262, the influence of this revolutionary jet can still be seen in contemporary aircraft. Swept wings, automatic slats, modular construction is all examples of technology introduced through the Me 262. More than any aircraft of its day, the 262 was a fighter of absolutely unrivaled potential. Thankfully, full production of the Me 262 did not start until 1944, too late to affect the outcome of WWII.

A very limited production run of the aircraft was recreated to exacting standards from an original Me 262 trainer. Currently, there are only three Me 262 replicas flying: two in the United States and one in Germany. The new Me 262 “White 1” carries a continuation of the original work numbers assigned with updated engines and safety equipment. Me 262 Work Number 501241 was a project started by Texas Aircraft Factory Inc. in conjunction with Classic Fighter Industries Inc. in 1993. The project was transferred to the Me 262 Project in Everett, WA and then completed at Sanders Aeronautics in Ione, California. “White 1” first flew on December 20th, 2002. FAA Phase 1 flight test requirements were completed in 2012. For the first time in history, the Collings Foundation is offering Unusual Attitude \ Upset Training and Type Rating in the Me 262 “White 1.” Certain prerequisites exist for the flights.

Unusual Attitude / Upset Training Flight
Cost: $4,500. Includes an approximate 40-minute flight in the Me 262 “White 1.”
Minimum Requirements: Student pilot certificate (all you need is a third class medical that can be issued by any Aviation Medical Examiner) or pilots license. See: https://www.faa.gov/pilots/amelocator/ for a list of examiners in your area.
Description: Start with introduction of aircraft performance and limitations, cockpit layout, configuration, drills, in-flight and ground egress, then sortie brief. Continue to preflight inspection,
engine start and take off. While in flight, trainee will experience a variety of flight maneuvers. These include high-speed performance characteristics, constant altitude turns and recoveries.

Me 262 Type Rating
Cost: Billed at $3000 per flight hour plus fuel. Type rating based on nine flights, but can be
accomplished in less, dependent on pilot competency.
Requirements: Must posses at least a United States Private Pilot certificate with Multi Engine Land
Rating, 3rd class medical certificate, have logged a minimum of 1,000 hours pilot flight time including 500 hours as PIC in aircraft category (multi engine).
Description: Minimum 4 dual flights, covering all activities through flight training. Student must demonstrate the ability to perform basic flight operations, emergency procedures, and the
proficiency necessary to complete maneuver required to meet the ATP/AEA/PTS. Successful completion of the course prepares the student for the FAA AEA/Type Rating check ride. Check ride can be scheduled with advanced notice.




Me-262 Program - The Collings Foundation

[BReif61]

Forget learning to fly the thing; how much to just take a ride in it? Gotta beat the socks off riding along in a B-17.

[Hawkeye's-911T]

Hey Brad, I'm with ya - all I need is the spare coin & permission from the resident Minister of Finance.
Cheers
JB

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by varmint

60 years after the birth of the Me 262, the influence of this revolutionary jet can still be seen in contemporary aircraft. Swept wings, automatic slats, modular construction is all examples of technology introduced through the Me 262. More than any aircraft of its day, the 262 was a fighter of absolutely unrivaled potential. Thankfully, full production of the Me 262 did not start until 1944, too late to affect the outcome of WWII.

Leading edge and trailing slats were introduced on the BF-109, not the 262.

[john70t]

Specialized materials for turbines were scarce, the ball bearing factories had been flattened, bombers arrived in cross-fire swarms with long range escorts, engines tended to flare out or catch on fire, one hit would bring them down, air dominance had already been achieved, and they were slow and vulnerable on takeoff/landing.

And of course Hitler insisted they be used for bombing.

[Jrboulder]

$3000 per hour plus fuel

That's going to be pretty spendy with those CJ610's

[romad]

Why in gods name would you want to be typed in a Me-262, for the same money I think you can still get a 737 type.

[romad]

Just my opinion: But any of you thinking about sending money on a jet ride dream might want to consider something else to piss away your money on. For most people, the first couple hours in these types of aircraft are not that enjoyable and can even be down right miserable

[VincentVega]

$3000 per hour plus fuel

That's going to be pretty spendy with those CJ610's

I know nothing about planes. What does this translate to in gallons? If that's possible. Just curious.

From wiki

Specific fuel consumption: 0.96 - 0.97 lb/(lbf·h) ( 27 g/kN·s )

[Jrboulder]

This is all secondhand info and I've never flown a turbine aircraft but...

Like any turbojet, they are most efficient at altitude. I've heard a 20-series Learjet burns as much at idle at sea level as cruising at at 41,000 ft. Usually they taxi on one engine and do a derated takeoff if possible.

I doubt this plane is RVSM certified so it's going to be stuck under 29,000 ft and from the sound of it you never get into class A airspace (18,000 ft) (no instrument ticket required for training).

They probably bill Jet A at $6.50 a gallon so at 300 gph (that might be a bit high) you're talking $1950 an hour on top of $3000 an hour.