Wanna bet? Were you vacationing on the moon last November?

I said "logical".

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"At least six children worldwide have died from choking on the toys"

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So Mattel is six times more likely to support terrorism than Crockpot?
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Statistics still show the hospital or national road system is the most danerous place for children to go. The American public is still being trained to fear and acccept, using media sensationalism.

I agree.

20 children a year are killed by this aggressively marketed tool, found in almost EVERY house:

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No more or less tragic, no more or less negligent than the parents that failed to protect their kids from guns.

You guys want to arrest and prosecute the parents of the 20 kids that die every year in plastic pails? If not, why not...they are just as negligent. The kids are all just as dead, victims of stupid parents and inanimate objects.

If you guys want to ban guns, all guns, just say it and act on it. Free yourself. Other than that, stop using children as props and focus on the slaughter that goes on everyday in this country, get to the root cause and act on it: Insist we enforce the laws currently in place.

I had to come back to this thread one more time after a visit to Walmart yesterday to pick up some fishing stuff. I don't think I've ever even glanced in their long gun display before as I own plenty and don't even window shop there. Approaching the display, what is front-and-center but one of the toy like pink, ultra small rifle (there was also a black one behind it). I just don't see ANY reason at all for such tiny little POS toys to be marketed to the masses. Something that hasn't been mentioned in this thread...my LEO tennant tells me the gang-bangers are already painting the tips their real guns orange to give them an edge. Don't sell/buy real guns that look like toys....it's just a REALLY bad idea for many reasons.
Sorry about doing it again Redbeard!

..."disconnected"...but shooting .22 since I was 6-7 :)

No you're not ;)

Interesting arguments for sure.

I guess one thing ill add is that there would be one more 2 year old alive today if that gun was either locked up or not in that home to begin with. That covers both sides.

This will make your argument better - It is even more aggressively marketed to kids than the strawman "pink" rifle

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Why Kids Drown in Kiddie Pools

huh....
 

Or really, instead, a correlation between large poor populace and underemployed, undereducated teenage males.... big cities, big lower socioeconomic populace higher crime rates. More likely the correlation you are looking for... not strict gun policies. I am making a wild presumption here, that if you lived in any of these cities, you would not place yourself voluntarily in any of the high crime areas, and thus, not really likely to become one of the statistics...? Whether you were packing or not....

That's the beauty of marketing... if the pink guns don't sell, they come off the shelves. If they do sell, then what's all the fuss? Why shouldn't people be free to buy pink guns for their kids? Too many people leap immediately to some emotional negative reaction to guns, especially with regard to kids. Stop trying to legislate every f*cking thing free people do!

Who said anything about legislation? Oh, that's right. You did.

Marketing guns to kids 4-10 is just plain stupid and the manufacturer is apparently reaping the consequences in social media.

Naturally, a side effect of this will be a run on Crickett guns, because some people are terrified they'll have their freedoms impinged. The gun manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank.

Yep..


Really, I would bet that rap music has had more of an impact of killing people than pink guns, not only is it marketed to those who are more likely yo break the law, but it actually promotes rape & murder.

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The Police and other "safety" agencies should STFU on social issues and voting endorsements. They tend to mirror Boss Hogg politics......just sayin'...........

When you click on the little person symbol, it provides a bubble of information; date, name, age of victim and so forth,

Scary in it's own way.

They have actually been gluing the little orange plastic stoppers out of some sort of bottles onto the muzzles of their guns pretty much ever since the legislation to require orange muzzles on toy guns was passed. Who couldn't see that coming? :rolleyes: I guess all we really need now is a law preventing them from disguising their real guns as toy guns, so they stop doing that.

I'm afraid I disagree. I believe those years are the very best in which to introduce kids to firearms. I base my opinion on first hand experience, and a multi-generational Higgins family tradition of teaching our children to shoot. There has never been a gun accident in our family, for as far back as our family history goes. Yet, for generation after generation, we have all been exposed to, living with, and shooting firearms since very young ages. We have a pretty solid accident free history, and a valuable tradition. I'm sure many American families can say the same thing. that's what we have - what do you have? It appears you have no more than emotions based upon a single incident, with no personal experience whatsoever.

I mentioned earlier that both of my boys received Chipmunk rifles on their sixth Christmasses. What a godsend - we never had "kid size" rifles when I was that age. We had to struggle to make do with adult rifles. Something that fit us better, allowing us to learn proper form earlier on, would have been very welcome indeed. It sure was when it came time to teach my two boys.

Oh, and their little rifles? They have been making the rounds at work for the last 12-15 years, as other guys are having kids reach that age. Those rifles are now with their third family since I passed them on. I'll eventually get them back and save them for my grand kids.

Oh, and about that "social media" - I know for a lot of people, social media is a very, very big deal. Social media = real life. Folks that fit that description would be shocked to learn that there are still an awful lot of people to whom none of it really matters - folks who live real life outside of the cyber electronic world. You know, those hopeless people who live in flyover country, clinging to their God and guns. I would suspect a lot of their customers fall into that catagory. As the witless hand-wringing ninnies that seem to dominate cyberspace blather on and on via their various little media devices about something they know nothing about, these customers will quietly carry on as if none of it matters. Because it doesn't.

Well said Jeff. And I think it is just about time to squish this topic down the drain.

Since the initial incident, two other young brothers have shot their sisters. One sister survived.

The notion that kids *should* have guns is ludicrous. To call a 'child-sized' rifle a "godsend" is truly bizarre. And to use social media to discount social media... well there are some irony-deficient folks out there.

THIS is Social Media? Wayne should charge more...SmileWavy

You have put up another straw man argument. No one has EVER suggested arming kids. Have you stopped beating your wife? :rolleyes:

Since the report a hundred teenagers have died while driving and texting on their iPhones..

The notion that teenage drivers should have an iPhone capable of texting while driving, without a warning screen or pop-up by the way, is ludicrous.

Apple can fix this, disable texting while driving, a simple matter of tying in GPS speed and text messaging ability.

Why don't they do it? It is an epidemic and Apple sits idly by, as do you.

A car, a teenager and an iPhone makes marketing to [I]infants[I] sensible.