Mine turned 3 yesterday and he's always been, like you said, full on or out cold. The 6 y/o is an old soul and very responsible.... That's where we use our good judgement:)

At 10-12 most can easily discern what they can and what they should not point at other people. The problem I had at that age was that my friends wouldn't belive I shot them and then we would argue.

My question, at what age is a pink gun appropriate then? My 11 year old wants a pink 10/22 but I said no because she has to share it with her brother when he is older or pay for it herself since we just bought her a Marlin in 30-30 for deer season. I guess I shouldn't wrap the 30-30 stock in pink digital camo? Kidding, she likes that one as is.

Do you have the same issues getting him to transition from full out to out? Ours lays in bed and had a hard time winding down for the day and then gets up early and doesn't understand why everyone is not up since it is daylight. "You don't sleep when it is daylight".

Sorry 'bout the hijack.

There is a disconnect in this thread: The rifle wasn't pink

Fortunately he's a great sleeper and goes to bed easily( probably because he's as exhausting to himself as he is to us) and often I have to wake him up. While he's awake there is little winding down.

Have to agree with the OP and suggest Moses is off the mark. 4th generation American here and none in my woodpile ever owned a firearm. So, it's not a requirement or SOP.

No problem with responsible gun ownership but despite the assertions throughout this thread, I'm sure each can think of lapses in terms of responsibility. In this case, a 2 year old is dead. Any comparison to lightning, hand tools, or drowning is just asenine when discussing 5 year olds with access to firearms. Making such comparisons reinforce a lack of judgement in my humble opinion.

Not in favor of recent control methods but strongly in favor of real consequences for irresponsible ownership resulting in accidental death. Not unlike DUI homicide.

Sorry 'bout that...I'd like to say that it won't happen again, but I'd be a liar :D.

I just skimmed the thread and took the "pink" angle...point taken.

Brent...was it a Marlin 336C? That was my first deer rifle too, but I was a bit older than your daughter. "Gun maturity" doesn't have a thing to do with a someone's age. My college roommate told me about his best friend that accidently shot himself a few weeks ago, and we got to talking about guns and stuff. My buddy wants to go shooting when he moves closer with a nice collection he's inherited. I will not go with him...and he will never know why.

What sort of punishment would you feel is appropriate for the mother who just lost her daughter at her son's hand? Would you feel different if the chld had run into the street and got hit by a car, or drowned in a pool? It was a tragic mistake, that she will live with forever. The need for punishment will change nothing.

It is a 30AS, no ramped front sight? Had a thread on it a while ago. Here in Wisconsin the mentoring program lets young hunters enjoy the outdoors with a mentor but you only get one gun between the two of you. We purchased a Williams peep sight but will be selling that for a Skinner set, they have a more elegant solution that covers the scope mount screw holes.

I'm calling bs! I read on the Internet that Rick Lee sold it to him in a parking lot deal :p.

In all seriousness though, (and I'm a staunch defender of our 2nd), I think we are going to continue to see such "tragedies" as guns proliferate to many who simply have NO CLUE. I don't have any answers...

The cold reality is that it's natural selection. Clean up the mess and move forward.

no , we will hear and see crying folks on the TV..
O & his ilk love tragedy..

it's what they want..
their knee-jerk reactions supported by lofo's..

what we don't see or hear much about..
is what V shows in his thread..
guns save lives..
by terminating our often government sponsored trash..


Rika

Just thinning out the herd.

Why is it a tragedy? 250,000 300,000 die a day. This one death is a tragedy??? :confused:

Yes,

Any death of a child that could be reasonably avoided is a tragedy.

Amen to that.

One thing that I didn't like but have come to view as not as bad as I thought was when I lived in CA you had to show you reasonably understood how a handgun worked and could handle it safely before you could buy one.

A moment of distraction can ruin a family. I feel bad for the 5 year old for his feelings in the future.

A kid gets fat, so Fast food is to blame, not the fact that the kid sits on his butt plaving games on a PC or that the parent takes them to XYZ fast food instead of cooking or going to a real restaurant.

A kid gets hurt on a motorized scooter, blame the scooter manufacture, not the kid for riding it off the roof, or the parent for buying it.

So, the real problem as I see it is the PARENTS not being good parents. When I was little, we had guns in the house, and I knew where they were, but I also knew that I was not to TOUCH them without my Father there, and I knew that if I did, I would be in REAL trouble:eek: There was a REAL reaction to an action, responsibility was taken very serious, not this BS blaming everyone else.

There is a lot to be said about taking kids out to the range and teaching them about guns, as the sound & feel when the trigger is pulled leaves a lasting impression that a Gun is not a toy, and must not be treated as such and must be handled with respect.

I also grew up with a pool:cool: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367533922.jpg


I read in the paper not long ago about a couple pushing to have new regulations because they were TOO STUPID
and lazy to check behind their car before backing up:mad:
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So, because some parents are too stupid and lazy to walk around their car (notice they try and blame it on the Hulking SUV:rolleyes:) it is the car manufactures & SUVs fault that stupid people back over their kids:mad:

What kind of parents gets in a car and goes someplace without knowing where their 9 year old is?? Plus, having kids, you would think they would be smart enough to make sure the kids didn't leave anything in the drive way before pulling out..:mad: Only stupid people & bad parenting to blame for these, not the manufacture of Pink guns or Hulking SUVs :mad:

And this is where the problem lies... a reasonable, law-abiding citizen slowly becomes affected by the emotion of the issue, rather than the logic, and allows for just the slightest infringement, after all, think of the lives that could be saved...