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GG Allin 07-17-2013 04:02 PM

Anti "Ticket Camera" Plate Covers?
 
Any referrals on ones that work? Are they B.S.? Are they illegal?

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/008...1_large.jpg?24

Rick V 07-17-2013 04:04 PM

Not legal in Va, but they only use cameras here for running redlights, you should get a ticket for that anyway.

sc_rufctr 07-17-2013 04:08 PM

They work and are available on-line.

Somehow they blur the image of a licence plate to a video or still camera.

Illegal everywhere. The cops can see them using their event cameras and claiming you didn't know you had one wont help much.

GG Allin 07-17-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7555074)
Not legal in Va, but they only use cameras here for running redlights, you should get a ticket for that anyway.

The only ticket I ever received for this was a right turn on red. I slowed down just shy of stopping, $100. To add insult to injury the lane I was turning in to is a new lane from that point on, no way to even turn out in front of traffic. They are set up to grab cash around here nothing more.

Where the maroon car is, closest to top left.


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911_Dude 07-17-2013 04:16 PM

Myth Busters gave all of them all (speeding camera license plate spoofers) a FAIL. Take that for what its worth.

None of the covers, plastic films or sprays did any thing. And you could see the pics, all clear as a bell.

RWebb 07-17-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7555080)
They work ...

I thought they didn't as per above post... recall where you saw that they did work?

98cobra 07-17-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911_Dude (Post 7555092)
Myth Busters gave all of them all (speeding camera license plate spoofers) a FAIL. Take that for what its worth.

None of the covers, plastic films or sprays did any thing. And you could see the pics, all clear as a bell.

True, they don't work. Modern cameras are hard to trick

Rick V 07-17-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GG Allin (Post 7555088)
The only ticket I ever received for this was a right turn on red. I slowed down just shy of stopping, $100. To add insult to injury the lane I was turning in to is a new lane from that point on, no way to even turn out in front of traffic. They are set up to grab cash around here nothing more.

Where the maroon car is, closest to top left.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1374102754.jpg

Traffic tickets have nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with revenue generation,

sc_rufctr 07-17-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7555104)
I thought they didn't as per above post... recall where you saw that they did work?

I saw a UK Police Traffic TV show. Similar to the US "Cops"...

A guy in a GTi had them and they spotted him parked in a service station.
They actually showed the plate cover and the image of the plate was blurred.

szyzygy 07-17-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7555074)
Not legal in Va, but they only use cameras here for running redlights, you should get a ticket for that anyway.

In NC they let private companies put up these cameras and operate them. They got a certain % of the fine.
They later got rid of all of them (IIRC) because the stupid private company had shortened the yellow light to cause more fines and more revenue for themselves.

911SauCy 07-17-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911_Dude (Post 7555092)
Myth Busters gave all of them all (speeding camera license plate spoofers) a FAIL. Take that for what its worth.

None of the covers, plastic films or sprays did any thing. And you could see the pics, all clear as a bell.

Myth Boners also said it's impossible to shoot an arrow into the end of another arrow.

I've personally done it and seen it done, ranges regularly have them on the walls.:rolleyes:

1-ev.com 07-17-2013 04:50 PM

I know there are some spray that do the same...

scottmandue 07-17-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7555080)
Illegal everywhere.
{SNIP}
Claiming you didn't know you had one wont help much.

^^^This

RWebb 07-17-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7555134)
I saw a UK Police Traffic TV show. Similar to the US "Cops"...

A guy in a GTi had them and they spotted him parked in a service station.
They actually showed the plate cover and the image of the plate was blurred.

thx - how long ago?

and could the tv producers have blurred it to avoid privacy issues?

onlycafe 07-17-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911SauCy (Post 7555156)
Myth Boners also said it's impossible to shoot an arrow into the end of another arrow.

I've personally done it and seen it done, ranges regularly have them on the walls.:rolleyes:




i seem to recall what they said was that it was not possible to split an arrow with another arrow.

Flieger 07-17-2013 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 7555269)
i seem to recall what they said was that it was not possible to split an arrow with another arrow.

It wasn't possible to split it end to end because the grain would make it veer off. They got several hits where it took off a good chunk of the shaft but not a clean cleavage in half. Even when they built a housing with a slot to keep the arrow going straight.

98cobra 07-17-2013 05:44 PM

The best way to keep from getting caught is to not run red lights, it could also save your life.

Esel Mann 07-17-2013 05:54 PM

There are ways to do it but the general audience that wants such also wants it for free.

To do use such a device is illegal (legally your lp must be visible at all times).

However such solutions(s) minimize shall we say the period where one is illegal.....

Keep in mind though that many vehicles whether you requested it or not come with manufacturer location services. So I would not put it past "the collectors" to begin paying for access to such from the manufacturers and combining such "additional evidence". Fortunately there are ways around that too!

Not only is "it's good to be King" but its equally fine to be an electronic engineer ;)

thumbdoctor 07-17-2013 05:54 PM

Install a slave flash assembly near your license plate. It will over expose the photo.

Esel Mann 07-17-2013 06:47 PM

Slave flash won't cut it. Or I wouldn't depend upon it. You can certainly feel free to do so though! It is relatively easy for "the collectors" to counter.

First, it's not a photo in the sense of old skool photography. It's either a video, where by they extract a frame or multiple frames. If it isn't video, it's single frames but rapid multiples are taken over a certain time period. Think of it as more than photo but not quite video.

Second, a flash by nature is brief. It doesn't help if their capture window is longer than your flash window. Not to mention if such were not true, it would be necessary to align and time your flash the instant they take theirs. Well if for some reason they choose not to flash, how you going to know when to counterflash?

Third, being a solid state camera, they can have automatic light intensity compensation. That is to say they can filter out moments of brief intensity.

Fourth, being a camera one would have to cover all the cases. That is to say if you flash visible and the camera operates in the infrared, no dice.

sc_rufctr 07-17-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7555171)
thx - how long ago?

and could the tv producers have blurred it to avoid privacy issues?

About 2 years ago. I'll try and find it on YouTube.

... I thought that at first but when you watch the video it's plain to see the plate is blurred and remains blurred as the camera moves around. It doesn't look post production.

Hawktel 07-17-2013 08:16 PM

Go old school.

http://thehumanfootprint.files.wordp...0038.jpg?w=468

Joe Bob 07-17-2013 08:19 PM

I would be more worried about the cameras that scan and look for warrants, or track you for the black helicpoters. The internet says, hey gotta be true, that 75% of the POPO does this and have the capability to store the information.

Just sayin'.....

Radioactive 07-17-2013 08:54 PM

I hate to point out the obvious................don't put a license plate on.

If you drive a late model car, leave the temp in the window, paper plate on the car.

Just leave the new plates in the back. If you ever get stopped just put them on.



And if they do write a citation for it, it will be an equipment violation.


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