Pittsburgh Pirates - Best Record in MLB

Buckterrier · 06-29-2013, 03:35 PM

I know this thread will get the as much traffic as the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in January but I've been a fan for goin' on 48 years. The Pirates have a major sports record, (NFL, NHL, MLB, & NBA), of 20 straight losing seasons dating back to Barry Bonds leaving the Pirates vis free agency. The curse of Barry Bonds will be over this year!

See ya

mb911 · mb911's Garage

Tell me about it hmm the Brewers are never good well not for more then 1/4 of a season.

Good for your team though.

Buckterrier · 06-29-2013, 05:35 PM

Dang Ben, loved the Brewers of Molitor, Gordon, Cooper, Yount. Rollie Fingers was on that team also wasn't he? They had such an awesome team, just a team of mudders, but gooood mudders.
They should have won that World Series

mb911 · mb911's Garage

We keep hearing about Brauns drug scandal here plus he has been hurt so much pisses me off. That's why I enjoy Little league so much

89911 · 06-30-2013, 02:32 PM

All well and good, but many here are not anticipating anything yet. No awards for the best record in July, which from the last few seasons, looked like what they were aiming for. This thing is going to end in a monumental way, either a major implosion or a World Series favorite. We will see how they handle it.

jcommin · jcommin's Garage

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier

I know this thread will get the as much traffic as the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in January but I've been a fan for goin' on 48 years. The Pirates have a major sports record, (NFL, NHL, MLB, & NBA), of 20 straight losing seasons dating back to Barry Bonds leaving the Pirates vis free agency. The curse of Barry Bonds will be over this year!

See ya

I hope they can keep the team together - it would be a good thing for baseball and the small market cities. Too many times they can't afford the salaries and trade them away leaving them relegated to a farm system for the big money teams.

I'm happy for you and your town.

Taz's Master · 06-30-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jcommin

I hope they can keep the team together - it would be a good thing for baseball and the small market cities. Too many times they can't afford the salaries and trade them away leaving them relegated to a farm system for the big money teams.

I'm happy for you and your town.

This is not a team to keep together. There might be more talent in the Pittsburgh minor league system than on the big league roster. I don't know how far this team will go, but I expect them to get better over the next couple of seasons.

Buckterrier · 06-30-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 89911

All well and good, but many here are not anticipating anything yet. No awards for the best record in July, which from the last few seasons, looked like what they were aiming for. This thing is going to end in a monumental way, either a major implosion or a World Series favorite. We will see how they handle it.

I'm with you. I just don't see another collapse this year. The core group of guys know what collapsing feels like, twice. And they have pitching depth which was found out by necessity. Not expecting a World Series championship but a playoff birth would be nice. Driving down Friday the 12th for the 3 game series against the Mets.

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Originally Posted by Taz's Master

This is not a team to keep together. There might be more talent in the Pittsburgh minor league system than on the big league roster. I don't know how far this team will go, but I expect them to get better over the next couple of seasons.

Indianapolis this that good??

89911 · 06-30-2013, 07:09 PM

Sounds good. send a pm if you want to grab a beer!

Buckterrier · 07-01-2013, 03:25 AM

That would be great. I'm staying at like a Hilton or something right next to the ballpark, (no driving!). I'll have all day Saturday as the game is 7:05 that night. I am probably going to visit David, TargaS also. I'll shoot a PM next week.

Taz's Master · 07-01-2013, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier

I'm with you. I just don't see another collapse this year. The core group of guys know what collapsing feels like, twice. And they have pitching depth which was found out by necessity. Not expecting a World Series championship but a playoff birth would be nice. Driving down Friday the 12th for the 3 game series against the Mets.

Indianapolis this that good??

Cole and Mercer have stepped onto the roster and made the team better, and Jeff Locke was one inning past the limit to be considered a rookie (he had pitched 51 innings at season's start), or he'd be getting serious ROY consideration. If you want to feel good about this team's future, read up on their minors

89911 · 07-01-2013, 09:37 AM

The only problem has been that they find a way of selling off their talent to save money. The team makes a nice tidy profit and big salaries have a way of cutting into this. This has been the major reason I have banned myself from baseball in general. Hopefully they will open their wallets and pay these guys finally.

Aragorn · 07-01-2013, 11:34 AM

Jinx man... Don't jinx it...

This was a quick cure to ward off bad luck found on the interwebs..

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/03/cant_touch_this.html

I look kind silly right now but this is serious stuff...

The Bucs are finished selling off the talent. The new owner said a few years ago that he wanted to rid the team of all traces of losing when he traded off jumping jack flash (Jack Wilson.)

FWIW I was at the 1992 NLCS game 5 at Three Rivers.

speedy72911t · speedy72911t's Garage

Willie Stargell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I lived in Pittsburgh for both of those Word Series and was lucky enough to have spent time with the family. I have great memories of Mr. Stargell playing with me after a family dinner one evening and amazing everyone by having one of the family cats jump up in his lap for pets. Amazing because this was an ornery old cat that wouldn't go near anyone, including us.

The 70s were not a great time to be in the Steel business, but the sports teams more than made up for the challenges.

The Pirates have not had a good run for a long time but they none the less have a lasting legacy.

Taz's Master · 07-01-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn

Jinx man... Don't jinx it...

This was a quick cure to ward off bad luck found on the interwebs..

Why Italians grab their crotches to ward off bad luck. - Slate Magazine

I look kind silly right now but this is serious stuff...

The Bucs are finished selling off the talent. The new owner said a few years ago that he wanted to rid the team of all traces of losing when he traded off jumping jack flash (Jack Wilson.)

FWIW I was at the 1992 NLCS game 5 at Three Rivers.

I was at games 3 & 4, the win by Wakefield and the loss by Drabek. Walkie's game 5 was something special, even if Stan Belinda was destined to get squeezed so bad in game 7 that it cost a trip to the WS.

21 years ago...

Taz's Master · 07-01-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by speedy72911t

Willie Stargell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I lived in Pittsburgh for both of those Word Series and was lucky enough to have spent time with the family. I have great memories of Mr. Stargell playing with me after a family dinner one evening and amazing everyone by having one of the family cats jump up in his lap for pets. Amazing because this was an ornery old cat that wouldn't go near anyone, including us.

The 70s were not a great time to be in the Steel business, but the sports teams more than made up for the challenges.

The Pirates have not had a good run for a long time but they none the less have a lasting legacy.

Yeah, growing up in the '70's, I thought every kid rooted for their hometown team and they won championships. Kind of sets you up for unrealistic expectations.

Buckterrier · 07-01-2013, 04:32 PM

My family moved to the Dayton Ohio area in 1968 from the Pittsburgh area. Had to put up the Big Red Machine all those years of my childhood, hated them, hated Pete Rose. In hindsight they were an awesome team, maybe one of the best ever. But I stayed true to the Pirates and got to enjoy the 2 World Series championships.
Think about this... The Orioles had four 20 game winners on that 71' staff. Every game of the WS the Pirates faced a 20 game winner. Now 13 game winners win the Cy Young award. Amazing how the game has changed.

I was a huge Clemente fan but Willie Stargell in the 79' Series was the team leader and just a great player. He willed the Pirates to that championship. It's great to hear he was a nice man also. Anyone remember Bob Prince saying "Lay some chicken on the hill Will"?

Since 1960 us Pittsburgherers, (is that what we are?) have been very fortunate... 3 World Series, 3 Stanley Cups, 6, countem' 6 Super Bowls, and 1 NCAA football championship. And the university's basketball team is a perennial winner although they crap out during the tournament.

mike monde · 07-02-2013, 03:20 AM

Don't get to excited Buck...the fade is bound to happen...your good friend from Philly

Buckterrier · 07-02-2013, 03:29 AM

You're just a bitter old man

Coming up to Lime Rock Saturday??

mike monde · 07-02-2013, 01:00 PM

Yes I am....I grew up hating the Pirates and those stupid softball uniforms and ugly hats. Stargell, Blast, Manny Sanguillen coming in and beating the Fightens...the "we are family" years ahhhhh! You grow up a Phillies fans in the 70's and very early 80's you hated two teams, the Reds and the Pirates.

Second question? Maybe