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Tired of Ducati Cam Belts? Change to a Bevel Gear Kit - for $$$$.

Ducati bevel gear kit . - Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum
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It will for sure not reduce the engine performance , but maybe it is increasing the performance . The timing is better with gears compare to a belt . No maintenance at all .Lubrication with the engine oil . You can see the oil flow from the top peep window . You take the belt drive off and bolt the bevel gear kit on . No machining and drilling required . You need to shim the gears to adjust the play like you do with a original bevel gear Ducati . This is the first image I took after the engine was running . I will post more images .
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I was thinking about machining the belt housing castings , but it looks not to bad . The second prototype will look different and better . I try to get a close look to the original bevel gear drive .
How much ? Is a very difficult question in the moment . If I make a bigger number the price will go down . I am guessing between 4000 and 5000€ .
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About the price I am only guessing . To make the gears is expensive and I do not know , how much the price drops down for a bigger quantity . All the aluminium parts are machined from solid . Maybe in the future I will cast them . I just don't know what looks better , casted surface like sand casting . Or machined all over .
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I was not able to find any source for commercially available gears , with the steel quality I need .
I also think to cast the parts is better .
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One Ducati is ready to put some miles on . I started the second one with optical improvements . The first one is just made to proof that it is possible without any machining and drilling to the engine .
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I can build anything , like komplette new engines . But there must be a market for . To build only a few is too expensive .
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Latest news . The first prototype got 200 Km and all is OK . Interesting is , the bevel gear drive is much more quiet compared to the tooth belt .I changed the ignition coil from the 4 coil system to the 2 coil system and accidently I found, the 2 spark coil is more powerful .
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We have a professional test stand . Last week we tested the bike for 1 hour with all revolution ranges .In the moment we have a different about 3 hp . But The test with tooth belt is one year old . If we convert the next bike , we will make a test with tooth belt and bevel gears at the same day .Just wait and you can get a power and torque diagram
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In 1 year a bike can lose 3 hp with piston rings or valves . This has nothing to do with the valvedrive . Also the day temperature and air pressure make a differend .
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second prototype is in progress , images coming soon
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The kit would cost more than my bike!
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The kit would cost more than my bike!
But is sure looks cool!
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The proverbial answer to the question nobody was asking.

Who would be "tired" of cam belts on their Ducati? I treat mine to a new pair every year as a part of its winter maintenance, whether it needs them or not. They are relatively cheap, and if it takes me an hour to do the whole thing I've been dilly-dallying too much.
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Seems to me that they should have designed it with chains rather than belts to begin with.
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Seems to me that they should have designed it with chains rather than belts to begin with.
Blasphemy! A duc without belts is, well...wrong (couldn't think of anything witty).
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Blasphemy! A duc without belts is, well...wrong (couldn't think of anything witty).
Actually, the "original" design was with bevel drive.

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