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MikeSid 04-02-2014 04:53 PM

It's one thing to hack a drone, and entirely another to hack a piloted plane.

Hypothetically...
Let's say is it a Boeing Aircraft. You would need a cooperating pilot or else he'd just grab the stick.

Let's say it's an Airbus and pilot inputs can be overridden by computer. You'd still have to wipe out communications to avoid pilot reporting the event as it was happening. I cannot believe all comms on a plane are computer based/reliant.

So that leaves us with a cooperative pilot - which means you wouldn't need to hack in the first place. Unless we're talking about a pilot not cooperating but perhaps acting under duress...like say... his missing wife and family was actually kidnapped by the evildoers.

But now we're pretty much shaving with Occam's Spoon, aren't we?.

cashflyer 04-02-2014 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSid (Post 7995123)
You would need a cooperating pilot or else he'd just grab the stick.

That's what Normy said.

Heel n Toe 04-02-2014 11:49 PM

Sarah Bajc (partner of passenger Phillip Wood) smells a rat and says many former pilots, military, etc. have contacted her at the Finding Phillip Wood FB page and told her they believe the flight was "taken," not crashed.

https://www.facebook.com/findingphilipwood370

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stuartj 04-03-2014 04:18 AM

ffs.

911_Dude 04-03-2014 05:15 AM

There is no way the plane was "hacked". It is not made to be flown remotely. So that makes a huge list of obstacles to overcome, just from the start. Also, there are redundant overrides to disconnect an autopilot, should it malfunction. In addition to all that, they are intentionally made weak enough that a normal person can physically overpower the autopilot, should the need arise.

It is surprising that the craft has not been found. But there are very few facts to support a good search. The search area is anywhere from the size of Texas to the size of the US, depending on what you want to base it on.

It never fails to amaze me how people will so quickly believe some elaborate conspiracy, but find it impossible to believe that it simply crashed from mechanical failure, human intervention or human error. And that maybe, just maybe, there are places on this world that are not always on radar or connected by cell tower, or internet. As for satellite coverage, why in the world would any government give a rip to put valuable satellite assets on that part of the worlds ocean (before all this happened).

Sometimes you just got to say "s**t happens" and move on.



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onewhippedpuppy 04-03-2014 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 911_Dude (Post 7995800)
There is no way the plane was "hacked". It not made to be flown remotely. So that makes a huge list of obstacles to overcome, just from the start. Also, there are redundant overrides to disconnect an autopilot, should it malfunction. In addition to all that, they are intentionally made to weak enough that a normal person can physically overpower the autopilot should the need arise.

It is surprising that the craft has not been found. But there are very few fact to support a good search. The search area is anywhere from the size of Texas to the size of the US, depending on what you want to base it on.

It never fails to amaze me how people will so quickly believe some elaborate conspiracy, but find it impossible to believe that it simply crashed, mechanical ,human intervention or human error. And that maybe, just maybe there are places on this world that are not always on radar or connected by cell tower, or internet. As for satellite coverage, why in the world would any government give a rip to put assets on that part of the worlds ocean (before all that happened).

Sometimes you just got to say "**** happens" and move on.

Yup. That conspiracy theory is FOS, and written by someone with zero aircraft knowledge.

jyl 04-03-2014 06:54 AM

If the plane is on the (dry) ground somewhere, it must have had in-flight refueling capability since the last satellite ping put it somewhere where it wouldn't have had enough fuel to get to land.

widgeon13 04-05-2014 05:08 AM

What's the latest…nothing?

kiwiokie 04-05-2014 05:19 AM

Latest is that a Chinese ship has picked up a ping of the same frequency as the black box.

afterburn 549 04-05-2014 05:39 AM

Now they have had time to move it to the ocean....

widgeon13 04-05-2014 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 7999320)
Now they have had time to move it to the ocean....

Good one. Did AF1 fly over that area recently?

afterburn 549 04-05-2014 05:51 AM

Hope NOT !
There is a risk of stupidity, arrogance, and ignorance falling out or off the plane on me.

cashflyer 04-05-2014 12:44 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1396727077.jpg

lonewolf 04-05-2014 08:22 PM

News conference in 10min

Racerbvd 04-05-2014 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 7995855)
Yup. That conspiracy theory is FOS, and written by someone with zero aircraft knowledge.

I didn't write it..

sc_rufctr 04-05-2014 09:30 PM

The Chinese are tracking the ping. They keep loosing it but they must be close.

"Irony"

afterburn 549 04-06-2014 05:17 AM

anyone with halve a brain can smell a cover up here...........

javadog 04-06-2014 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 8000393)
anyone with halve a brain can smell a cover up here...........

.... and those of us with an entire brain disregard those scenarios completely.

JR

911_Dude 04-06-2014 06:34 AM

^^^^lol!

GH85Carrera 04-06-2014 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 8000446)
.... and those of us with an entire brain disregard those scenarios completely.

JR

Yep. The 1/2 brain folks that think there is some vast government coverup are laughed at by anyone with the ability to think and use logic.


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