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I believe the US has far better, and far worse tech than most people think.

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Are there any US subs in the area using listening devices?

Seems like that would be useful.
I wasn't a sonar tech in the navy, but that destroyer we have over there helping out is equipped with both a state of the art sonar up front and a tactical towed array sonar (TACTAS) that is deployed out the back on a very long length of cable. There might be a sub out there too.
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ABC is reporting that 2 US officials told them the 2 reporting systems the pilots have control over shutdown separately. The data reporting system shut down at 1:07 and the transponder shut down at 1:21 which suggests that it wasn't a catastrophic mechanical failure.

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I wasn't a sonar tech in the navy, but that destroyer we have over there helping out is equipped with both a state of the art sonar up front and a tactical towed array sonar (TACTAS) that is deployed out the back on a very long length of cable. There might be a sub out there too.
Thanks Chris for your service and your input.

I feel confident now that we will find this plane at some point given our technology.
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I believe the US has far better, and far worse tech than most people think.
That's a completely oxymoronic statement. Take it to PARF.
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It seems that this has become a race to find the plane, and we have seen the results of the Chinese investigation.
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You know what i wished the media would all just say we don't know until the plane is found. I have never seem so much bad reporting, journalism, and WAG's on something that probably resulted in a huge loss of life.

I'm sick of all the falsehoods....
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That's a completely oxymoronic statement. Take it to PARF.
Seriously? He's absolutes right. We have asking stuff you don't hear about, or seldom do. Then when the SHTF, that was the ancient tech we've been cobbling along for years.
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If the plane flew East wouldn't the Navy base at Diego Garcia been able to track it's path?
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You know what i wished the media would all just say we don't know until the plane is found. I have never seem so much bad reporting, journalism, and WAG's on something that probably resulted in a huge loss of life.

I'm sick of all the falsehoods....
I agree - from today's Borowitz Report (/green font on):

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TOTAL ABSENCE OF INFORMATION ABOUT MALAYSIA FLIGHT NOT HINDERING TWENTY-FOUR-HOUR COVERAGE, CABLE NETWORKS SAY


NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) — A total absence of actual information about the missing Malaysia flight is not in any way hindering twenty-four-hour coverage of the story, the major cable news networks confirmed today.

“As a news network, we regard a lack of news as a worthy challenge,” the CNN chief Jeff Zucker said. “Our people are doing a heroic job of filling the void with rumor and hearsay.”

A spokesperson for MSNBC, however, scoffed at Mr. Zucker’s assessment that there was no information about the missing plane. “We are receiving tons of erroneous and conflicting reports from authorities every hour, and the instant we get them we pass them on to our viewers,” he said.

Over at Fox, host Sean Hannity expressed confidence in his network’s coverage. “When it comes to broadcasting twenty-four hours a day with no verifiable facts, I wouldn’t trade our experience and expertise for anybody’s,” he said.

Promising that the network was working overtime to generate new unfounded conspiracy theories, Mr. Hannity said, “We’ve put our whole Benghazi team on this.”
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I think the flight crew took the plane, they should start checking craigslist or ebay.
Current data shows my theory may not be to far off....................
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I believe the US has far better, and far worse tech than most people think.
Word.

I did a stint with the company that supplies security suites for DOD and other government agencies computer systems.

Let's just say I sometimes don't sleep well.

It's kind of like wishing you didn't know what's really in hotdogs.
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I believe the US has far better, and far worse tech than most people think.
My closest friend was an F-15 jockey. The data the radar and intelligence systems provides the pilot is right out of the future. Stunning and frightening at the same time.
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This is what a $1,300 fishfinder could do two years ago. It's a newer type of sonar tech added to traditional style fishfinders. Not so useful for finding fish but neat for looking at structure.
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It should be noted that this tech works in hundreds of feet of depth....not ten thousand + feet such as found in the Indian Ocean.
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I recall something my neighbor (Skunk Works employee) once said to me.

"Anything you can think of today as high tech.. the military has stuff 20-30 years beyond that.. "
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The fact pattern reminds me of the Learjet crash that killed Payne Stewart.
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you know what i wished the media would all just say we don't know until the plane is found. I have never seem so much bad reporting, journalism, and wag's on something that probably resulted in a huge loss of life.

I'm sick of all the falsehoods....
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I agree - from today's Borowitz Report (/green font on):
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That's a completely oxymoronic statement. Take it to PARF.
Perhaps the target should be Fillmore, CA.

Nostatic is spot on. As a former FCCS in the navy and manager at CSEDS in Moorestown, NJ (that was the engineering development site for the Aegis combat system including the AN/SPY-1 radar), we have capabilities that would blow your mind and then in other areas, you would scratch your head.

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