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wdfifteen 07-08-2014 10:36 AM

The fire department was here
 
Our shipping gir burned something in the office kitchen and set off the fire alarm. The alarm system automatically contacts the FD, and they didn't answer their phone when I called to tell them it was a false alarm. While I was calling our shipping girl silenced the alarm horn and opened the doors to let the smoke out. I'm still on the phone when the FD shows up and she tells them what is going on. The dude in charge shouts "EVERYONE SHOULD BE OUT OF THE BUILDING" at our shipping girl.
She said, "There are nine of us here today and they're all right here. There is no fire."
He shouts at her again, "YOU CAN BE CRIMINALLY CHARGED WITH SILENCING THE ALARM. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT." Scares her to death.
So I step in, "It was just smoke coming out of the oven!"
"YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!"
The shipping girl is at her desk crying now and I'm getting testy.
"SO YOU THINK THERE IS A BLAZE SOMEWHERE AND THE SMOKING OVEN WAS A F&%$ING COINCIDENCE?"
The guys start to leave and they haven't looked at any part of the building except the oven. On the way out I asked if they found the fire. Dude glares at me and gets in the truck. The alarm is still going off, it's just the noise maker that is silenced. They are supposed to reset it. So half an hour later I call them and tell them they forgot to reset the alarm. I asked the dispatcher (girl I went to high school with) to tell them to send the big truck and the loudmouth driver.
The fire chief (who was not on the original call) came to do the reset and apologized. He said he'd talk to the staff about community relations. I don't know if this clown was having a bad day or he's just a jerk and should find a job with Time Warner.

island911 07-08-2014 10:45 AM

With automatic fire systems, FF have to work extra hard to foist their authority/relevance onto people. I mean, being a FF is a Really great gig if you can get it. ...8 days a month... retire with a fat pension after 25 years.

oh wait, was that politically incorrect?

scottbombedout 07-08-2014 10:47 AM

A bit of sympathy with your FD.

Our company has just suffered a catastrophic fire in one of our properties and the insurance claim (hopefully) will be £1.5 to £2 million.
A tumble dryer went on fire. The staff thought they had put it out and didn't call the FD. They didn't realise the fire had spread until it was too late...

The insurance company are now wriggling, saying FD should have been called and they should have investigated.

Gogar 07-08-2014 10:52 AM

They were just cranky because your not-fire happened right in the middle of a wicked series of ping pong.

recycled sixtie 07-08-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 8153923)
With automatic fire systems, FF have to work extra hard to foist their authority/relevance onto people. I mean, being a FF is a Really great gig if you can get it. ...8 days a month... retire with a fat pension after 25 years.

oh wait, was that politically incorrect?

I don't agree with you that it is a great gig. Okay so there are not a lot of fires but firefighters can experience smoke inhalation. The rate of respiratory diseases and cancer is high.
Cheers, Guy.

dyount 07-08-2014 11:21 AM

Problem 1...... Whomever required a smoke detector in the area of the kitchen has cranial inversion issues. As per the NFPA 72 ( fire alarm code) please change said detector if within 30 ft of a cooking appliance to a heat detector in order to alleviate nuisance alarms.
That way the issue is easily resolved and no more FF showing up in a huff cause nothings burning and no holes can be cut in the roof etc. All that said, if there is an alarm of any kind quite honestly everyone should exit the building. The silencing of the alarm by authorized personnel is not an issue if it already went out automatic to 911 or a monitoring company.
If the alarm is a newer type silencing the horns will not alter what caused the alarm anyway... FD walks in the front door, check the address of the alarm device, goes to said place to then say.... Nope, no fire. No idea of how OH does things but I had a fire person threaten to write me a citation at one point.... "feel free to get the citation out so I can make sure you fill it in correctly, and what's your badge number btw cause mine is "CE 21xxxx". Got real pin drop quiet at that moment.
I work as what is typically called a Fire Marshal,,, review plans,inspect construction of all systems, electrical,plumbing,structure,fire alarm & sprinkler.
If you have any further questions regarding I'll be glad to help.

Seahawk 07-08-2014 11:21 AM

How did the driveway sealer hold up?

And shipping "girl"? What is the name of your business, Tarzan, Inc.?:D

sammyg2 07-08-2014 11:32 AM

Most fire fighters are decent enough folk, but a small percentage of em can't handle the ego stroking and get too big fer their own britches.


I used to be a trained and licenced fire fighter with certificates from from University of Nevada-reno and Texas A&M.
I've fought eight large refinery fires but I also worked as a city firefighter for a short time, even got a letter of recommendation from mayor McCheeze.
That was a very boring gig. Lots of rack time, lots of seat time, lots of cleaning, polishing, and POSING. That was the worst part, the egotistical posers I worked with. They walked around all puffed out, as if their sheet didn't stink. Ever so often one of us would have to remind them that they can't BS us, we're in on the scam. It was only a few that were like that but they gave the rest a bad name.

We have a volunteer fire brigade where I work, and even there we have a few who insist on PRETENDING that they are bigger than life super-hero super-fire fighters, when in actuality they are
refinery workers who might fight one fire in their entire career. They even have plastic badges.

And if a firefighter gets smoke inhalation, he did something WRONG. He broke a rule, failed to follow procedure, or cut a corner.

Cajundaddy 07-08-2014 11:35 AM

I have appreciation for FD guys. I hang out with a bunch of them including several Capts and Battalion Chiefs with CDF. Their job is 95% training, preparation, and maintenance which can get real tedious but when they are on a serious fire they are all-in to win it at great personal risk.

Loudmouth was way out of line. He needs to spend some quality time with a toothbrush and some wheel polish, or unrolling inspecting, and re-rolling hoses until he remembers his manners. There are times when a fireman should put real fear in someone's heart to prevent them from killing themselves but this wasn't it. He was probably just pissed that someone interrupted his lunch for a non-issue alarm call.

VaSteve 07-08-2014 11:44 AM

This thread is worthless without pictures...

GH85Carrera 07-08-2014 11:54 AM

The bad:

A friend of mine had a small kitchen fire. His wife called the fire department right away as he extinguished the fire with an extinguisher. The fire department showed up and kicked down the unlocked front door. They proceeded to hose down the furniture in the living room which was not on fire. They went into the kitchen and hosed down everything, then they went into the two bedrooms and hosed down everything. The entire contents of the house was water damaged because if of a small kitchen fire that was out. My friend was not happy.

The good:

Different friend had a lightning strike roof fire. The fire department came in grabbed all the pics from the walls and other valuables and threw them on the bed. Grabbed the bedspread and hauled it outside. They saved a lot of pictures and put out the fire but there was extensive damage to the roof and the ceiling caved in. The stuff in cabinets and dressers and closets was salvageable. The FD did a great job but the house was a demo job and rebuild. They put out the fire and saved a lot of irreplaceable "stuff."

wdfifteen 07-08-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 8153976)
How did the driveway sealer hold up?

It hasn't washed away yet. I'm hopeful the "110 gallons of sealer" is one thing he told me that wasn't a lie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 8153976)
And shipping "girl"? What is the name of your business, Tarzan, Inc.?:D

It's not PC, but that's what we call her.

wdfifteen 07-08-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 8154004)
This thread is worthless without pictures...

LOL!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404846062.jpg

If you're angling for a picture of our shipping associate (is that better Seahawk?) it ain't gonna happen.

porsche4life 07-08-2014 12:04 PM

Tell her next time not to put the boxes in the oven to seal them shut. ;)

GH85Carrera 07-08-2014 12:07 PM

Can you you get her on the roof. We all want more roof girl. ;)

wildthing 07-08-2014 12:09 PM

Well, a reflection of the shipping associate on the oven glass would be fine too. :)

recycled sixtie 07-08-2014 12:52 PM

This thread should spawn pics of hot firewomen. Do firewomen exist even?
G.

dyount 07-08-2014 01:07 PM

Oh.... Ohio..... If it were here in my jurisdiction you'd not have burners on that stove or you'd have a suppressive hood over it.
Funny thing is the FD guys should of told you to remove the smoke detector and replace with a heat.... save em a trip next time you burn the bacon on BLT at the office day.
And move those boxes away from the stove as well... at least 3' would be a good rule.

wdfifteen 07-08-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 8154137)
This thread should spawn pics of hot firewomen. Do firewomen exist even?
G.

There are a couple on our FD. I've only seen them with all the gear on, so I know nothing about their hotness.

Rikao4 07-08-2014 01:47 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404852290.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404852328.jpg

beepbeep 07-08-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 8153923)
With automatic fire systems, FF have to work extra hard to foist their authority/relevance onto people. I mean, being a FF is a Really great gig if you can get it. ...8 days a month... retire with a fat pension after 25 years.

oh wait, was that politically incorrect?

Try this on summer day in full gear and tell me if paycheck is fat enough ;)

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GWN7 07-08-2014 02:13 PM

Good idea to swap out the smoke for a heat detector.

Also not sure if where you are has a Fire Inspection branch of the fire department but you might want to call them and explain what happened and then ask them what the laws are in your area regarding automatic dispatch calls. Good idea to get the correct information from someone who's not having a bad day. :)

As to the firefighters only working 8 days a month, that works out to be 192 hours a month or 4 weeks & 4 days if you figure a 40 hr work week. Probably more hours than some people work in the same time period. Hard to have a dog when you work 24 hr shifts. A cat can be left alone for that time but a dog can't. I'm not even going to mention how hard working shifts like that can be on personal relationships.

"Fat pension after 25 years" Well most pensions are determined by how much you pay into them. That and your length of employment determines what a pension will be. It's part of your wages which you bargain for when you start employment with any company. At least it was with mine.

foxpaws 07-08-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 8154004)
This thread is worthless without pictures...

You are correct....

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...380c382628.jpg

island911 07-08-2014 02:30 PM

GW -
How many hours, out of the (supposed) typical 40hr/week, does the average worker get to sleep? --zero, I expect.

How many hours, out of the typical 48hr/week, does the average fire fighter get to sleep? --16, I expect.

I have yet to find a FF who needs a dog sitter. I expect they exist - such heavy problems...

"I'm not even going to mention how hard working shifts like that can be on personal relationships."
You mean because you're home so much? Yeah, I get that too. :cool:

Any pension that survives the boomers is fat. Pensions drop like flies for so many others who thought they were getting something for the future. Most workers have nothing of the sort.

Bill Douglas 07-08-2014 02:42 PM

I'm starting to really like the sound of Shipping Girl. You don't have any photos of her by any chance?

VINMAN 07-08-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beepbeep (Post 8154250)
Try this on summer day in full gear and tell me if paycheck is fat enough ;)

Nah, Island could just call some Mcdonalds workers next time his house is burning. They're not overpaid....

Rikao4 07-08-2014 02:59 PM

remember V...
look up now...
come a time I look down..
be safe..

Rika

island911 07-08-2014 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 8154330)
Nah, Island could just call some Mcdonalds workers next time his house is burning. They're not overpaid....

I said it's a good gig if you can get it.. Am I wrong? ...Are FF's just abused public servants, over worked and under paid? c'mon.

If my house is on fire, the VERY well funded FD won't save it. Best they will do is save the neighboring houses. But why be honest when sensationalism is so handy...

VINMAN 07-09-2014 07:51 AM

In response to the OP, the OIC handling the call was correct about not resetting the alarm, but he seriously needs to work on his bedside manner a bit. If that was one of my officers that did that and I found out about it, he would have gotten his ass reamed by me. Once we are dispatched to a call we have to respond, even if it is known to be a false alarm. No if ands or buts. Nobody can call us off or return us except the OIC at the scene.

widgeon13 07-09-2014 08:18 AM

Is that foam or something else??:D

Tobra 07-09-2014 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 8154137)
This thread should spawn pics of hot firewomen. Do firewomen exist even?
G.

Vinnie, paging Vinnie

He skipped right past this

GWN7 07-09-2014 09:43 AM

He's management. They don't exist. Everyone is just a firefighter. :)

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1990C4S 07-09-2014 12:16 PM

Firefighters frequently run into burning buildings. Cops rarely get shot at.

They both get danger pay. Just sayin'.

BlueSkyJaunte 07-09-2014 12:30 PM

America's 10 Deadliest Jobs - Forbes

Funny, I don't see "cop" or "firefighter" anywhere in the list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Article
The 10 Deadliest Jobs:

1. Logging workers
2. Fishers and related fishing workers
3. Aircraft pilot and flight engineers
4. Roofers
5. Structural iron and steel workers
6. Refuse and recyclable material collectors
7. Electrical power-line installers and repairers
8. Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers
9. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers
10. Construction laborers


bleucamaro 07-09-2014 12:35 PM

This thread reminds me of the "Am Hero and Deserve" videos from a couple years ago.

CA: SACRAMENTO METRO FIRE HAS ONE-HALF OF THE 100 HIGHEST PAID PUBLIC EMPLOYEES IN REGION

VINMAN 07-09-2014 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwn7 (Post 8155492)
he's management. They don't exist. Everyone is just a firefighter. :)

lmao! :d
Theres plenty of hot firewomen out ther.

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VINMAN 07-09-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleucamaro (Post 8155799)
This thread reminds me of the "Am Hero and Deserve" videos from a couple years ago.

CA: SACRAMENTO METRO FIRE HAS ONE-HALF OF THE 100 HIGHEST PAID PUBLIC EMPLOYEES IN REGION

Approximately 3/4s of the firefighters in this country are unpaid.


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Tobra 07-09-2014 12:58 PM

I know you have pics V man, spill 'em

flyenby 07-09-2014 02:06 PM

They chose thier job....they were not drafted or sentenced to it. Theses jobs are sought after for the perks...

Baz 07-09-2014 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 8155813)
lmao! :d
Theres plenty of hot firewomen out ther.

.

We know they are hot but are they hawt.....pics welcomed!


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