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rammstein 11-25-2015 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 8891409)
I always lift off the throttle over bridges

Good thought. Ideally, you slow up before the bridge, and then be on maintenance throttle over the bridge (i.e. not accelerating, not de-accelerating). If you were at the limit of traction on the bridge and then let off the gas, the additional drag on the drive-wheels could induce a skid on those wheels.

Growing up in a ton of snow and back roads taught me to watch the hell out for bridges. The worst are the ones that you can't even tell are bridges. Usually there are signs, but sometimes those signs are under snow banks already.

The best was my dad putting studded snows on the front wheels of my mom's car. He left all-seasons on the back. Oversteer all day long. Was fun, but certainly not a good idea IMO.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-25-2015 08:52 AM

Why the fk people continue to live in places like that is totally beyond me.

speeder 11-25-2015 08:59 AM

This is one of those "don't even need to watch the video" threads.

stomachmonkey 11-25-2015 09:01 AM

The one at 3:05 is brutal.

I doubt there were survivors.

john70t 11-25-2015 09:05 AM

Every Driver's Ed should require hours of this stuff.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1448471020.jpg

More:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashcamgifs
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam

flipper35 11-25-2015 09:19 AM

Yup. Last Friday coming home in some significant snow we were putzing along at 30mph on a four lane along with everyone else but there were a few in the ditch and we saw probably half a dozen cars that could not make it up a hill. Just sat and spun. Why don't they stay off the road or get good tires.

The amount of speed these people were carrying in that video was unbelievable.

flipper35 11-25-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8891694)
The one at 3:05 is brutal.

I doubt there were survivors.

I wondered that too. There wasn't anything left of the vehicle. Another case of too much speed. Slower and he wouldn't have crossed the median.

widebody911 11-25-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by VincentVega (Post 8891517)
Unreal how fast some in the video were driving.

I used to think that, but after viewing my own GoPro-as-a-dash-cam footage, I've noticed that my travel speed seems to be exaggerated, especially at higher frame rates.

tcar 11-25-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 8891437)
What do they do there? Issue dash cams to everyone who hasn't got a license yet?

Was told that almost everyone has one there... it's the only evidence there is for accident cause.

Of course it's not good for the one that causes it.

Crowbob 11-25-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 8891852)
I used to think that, but after viewing my own GoPro-as-a-dash-cam footage, I've noticed that my travel speed seems to be exaggerated, especially at higher frame rates.

It seems a lot of those accidents are proof positive of driving too fast irregardless* of GoPro frame rates, about which I know nothing.



*still not a word, I think

GH85Carrera 11-25-2015 12:28 PM

Some of those clips could be played in slow motion and it would still look like they were driving WAY too fast for the conditions.

aigel 11-25-2015 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8891679)
Why the fk people continue to live in places like that is totally beyond me.

Not easy to leave if you are Siberian. But you can leave if you are in Minnesota, North Dakota etc. etc. - and there are MILLIONS of people that don't. That's what's crazy to me.

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aigel 11-25-2015 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 8891437)
What do they do there? Issue dash cams to everyone who hasn't got a license yet?

LOL

The high rate of dash cams is due to fraud. People causing accidents and trying to collect on insurance. I.e. by getting in front of your vehicle and slamming the brakes, then claiming you rear-ended them. Even putting it in reverse at intersection to end up with a claim. Pretty bad sign for the state of your society if such behavior is widespread ...

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Tobra 11-25-2015 02:20 PM

I remember living in Texas when there were sub freezing temps that lasted about a week, maybe 1995. There was a long bridge by the Lake Conroe dam on 105. I think the speed limit was 65 mph, but I slowed down to about 25 before I got to the bridge. Guy flew by me in a brodozer F-250 in the left lane, hit the bridge, did a perfect 990* spin, put his grill into the guard rail, did a 270* spin and put the driver's side into the rail, ground to a halt pointing the wrong way. Still had the window sticker on it, too new for license plates.

LEAKYSEALS951 11-25-2015 04:49 PM

Good lord, how many people got killed in that video?
That would have been a "faces of death" video 20 years ago. Now it's just "ouch...whatever...."

dewolf 11-25-2015 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuba Steve (Post 8891328)

That one with the big truck towards the end - I don't see how anybody could have survived that one.

The accident took place on February 24, 2012 near the village of Omutischi Petushki in Russia's Vladimir Region. The driver of the SUV was killed. Reports indicate that the SUV driver probably lost control after his wheel hit a furrow of wet snow.

masraum 11-25-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 8892207)
I remember living in Texas when there were sub freezing temps that lasted about a week, maybe 1995. There was a long bridge by the Lake Conroe dam on 105. I think the speed limit was 65 mph, but I slowed down to about 25 before I got to the bridge. Guy flew by me in a brodozer F-250 in the left lane, hit the bridge, did a perfect 990* spin, put his grill into the guard rail, did a 270* spin and put the driver's side into the rail, ground to a halt pointing the wrong way. Still had the window sticker on it, too new for license plates.

Yep, I was here for that. It was winter of 95 or maybe 96. At least in Houston the guy could say "but I've never driven in cold conditions like this," but it was mostly due to "This truck is bad-arsed, it doesn't have to slow down for anything."

David 11-25-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian 162 (Post 8891076)
Can you believe the first crash. The guy literally followed the tracks of an earlier accident and landing right beside the other vehicle.

That happens a lot on a race track especially in the rain 😀

masraum 11-25-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 8892490)
That happens a lot on a race track especially in the rain 😀

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enzo1 11-25-2015 06:42 PM

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