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masraum 11-24-2015 05:01 PM

Winter driving - extra stupid edition
 
Wow, an amazing amount of stupid in this vid.
I'm guessing it's mostly Russian?

I've driven in snow some, and I've ridden with my father in snow a bit when I was younger. I understand that at times, stuff can happen, but most/much of the stuff in this vid is pure stupid.

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onewhippedpuppy 11-24-2015 05:03 PM

Snow is in the forecast for us this week, guaranteed I'll see plenty of stupid. Amazing how it snows every year but people still forget how to drive in it.

dewolf 11-24-2015 05:37 PM

Vodka....it'll get ya everytime.

Tervuren 11-24-2015 05:40 PM

From my experience at the local indoor kart track - its not that they forget how to drive in snow, its that they never understood momentum and basic driving physics in the first place.

Plenty of grip, plenty of handling, and they still plow smack into walls at street car speeds on a small race track.

pavulon 11-24-2015 06:47 PM

W t f.

Brian 162 11-24-2015 07:06 PM

Can you believe the first crash. The guy literally followed the tracks of an earlier accident and landing right beside the other vehicle.

pete3799 11-24-2015 07:22 PM

Yup.....lots of stupid there.

aigel 11-24-2015 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian 162 (Post 8891076)
Can you believe the first crash. The guy literally followed the tracks of an earlier accident and landing right beside the other vehicle.

Frozen bridge ... but still funny he does the exact maneuver on a straight road. Frozen bridges are an issue. In the US they usually are marked. Not in Russia.

Overall, much of what's shown on that video could have been avoided by just slowing down. In poor weather, you just plan on a longer drive.

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LakeCleElum 11-24-2015 08:55 PM

I've gotta get me a Dash Cam.....They are dirt cheap, most under $30

93nav 11-24-2015 09:37 PM

Which dashcams would you consider good value. Nothing fancy, but, yeh, they could be interesting.

Scuba Steve 11-25-2015 04:14 AM

You figure with the long winter they have in Russia drivers would have figured out by now to slow the f*k down already!

That one with the big truck towards the end - I don't see how anybody could have survived that one.

DaveE 11-25-2015 05:18 AM

We use a lot more salt in PA


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GH85Carrera 11-25-2015 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 8891150)
Frozen bridge ... but still funny he does the exact maneuver on a straight road. Frozen bridges are an issue. In the US they usually are marked. Not in Russia.

Overall, much of what's shown on that video could have been avoided by just slowing down. In poor weather, you just plan on a longer drive.

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This.

I remember poking along at a safe and slow speed along one of the long interstate bridges. The doofus behind me in his 4WD SUV decided he did not need to go that slow and pulled into the lane that was covered in more snow. He hit a large hunk of ice that likely fell off of a simi. It spun him around and he drove right into the concrete wall. and ended up facing backward with the front end mangled and the side of his Suburban beat up as a bonus. He was getting out to survey the damage as I drove past pointing and laughing.

Crowbob 11-25-2015 05:52 AM

That video had my heart racing and my head ducking. A good reminder that even when driving cautiously and appropriately for conditions on a two-lane road, some idiot going in the other direction may not be.

ckelly78z 11-25-2015 06:03 AM

Somehow, I have driven through 36 straight Northern Ohio Winters without a bad accident, or even a trip into the ditch. I have gotten stuck a coupla times, but in foot deep snow in a parking lot.

You have to leave plenty of room on slippery roads, and just not be in a huge hurry, I always lift off the throttle over bridges, and have good tires on all the cars.....it's not rocket science.

In really ugly weather, I take my 4x4 diesel F-250 (7100 lbs) and stay off of the main roads where all the commuters in thier bald tired, Hondas and self important douchebags in the SUVs, like to see how fast they can drive.

Steve Carlton 11-25-2015 06:14 AM

What do they do there? Issue dash cams to everyone who hasn't got a license yet?

masraum 11-25-2015 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve (Post 8891328)
You figure with the long winter they have in Russia drivers would have figured out by now to slow the f*k down already!

Yeah, that's the part that REALLY gets me. Clearly, a freak snowfall in Florida would end in calamity, but someplace that gets plenty of snow EVERY YEAR, come on people. The people that performed the passes in oncoming lanes at high speed were supremely stupid.
Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8891376)
I remember poking along at a safe and slow speed along one of the long interstate bridges. The doofus behind me in his 4WD SUV decided he did not need to go that slow and pulled into the lane that was covered in more snow. He hit a large hunk of ice that likely fell off of a simi. It spun him around and he drove right into the concrete wall. and ended up facing backward with the front end mangled and the side of his Suburban beat up as a bonus. He was getting out to survey the damage as I drove past pointing and laughing.

People with trucks and/or AWD think that they can do whatever they want, but it doesn't work like that. It also wouldn't surprise me if those folks were running crappy all season type tires.

motion 11-25-2015 06:53 AM

Perhaps not so much vodka as male bravado. You have to understand the Russian male. What gets me is that they barely get worked up vocally, as if they crash like this all the time, LOL.

VincentVega 11-25-2015 07:25 AM

Unreal how fast some in the video were driving.

In MD we get just enough ice/snow to be an issue but not enough to warrant snow tires. One of the favorite tactics here is to drive ~20 mph on the highway with your flashers on, blocking as many lanes as possible. I usually drive my truck in bad weather and usually in 2wd. The few times I've used 4wd its safe at ~50+ except for the knuckleheads that are more an issue than the road conditions.

LeeH 11-25-2015 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 8891093)
Yup.....lots of stupid there.

Been telling my young driver in training that most accidents are caused by people doing stupid stuff. This video is good proof of that.

rammstein 11-25-2015 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 8891409)
I always lift off the throttle over bridges

Good thought. Ideally, you slow up before the bridge, and then be on maintenance throttle over the bridge (i.e. not accelerating, not de-accelerating). If you were at the limit of traction on the bridge and then let off the gas, the additional drag on the drive-wheels could induce a skid on those wheels.

Growing up in a ton of snow and back roads taught me to watch the hell out for bridges. The worst are the ones that you can't even tell are bridges. Usually there are signs, but sometimes those signs are under snow banks already.

The best was my dad putting studded snows on the front wheels of my mom's car. He left all-seasons on the back. Oversteer all day long. Was fun, but certainly not a good idea IMO.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-25-2015 08:52 AM

Why the fk people continue to live in places like that is totally beyond me.

speeder 11-25-2015 08:59 AM

This is one of those "don't even need to watch the video" threads.

stomachmonkey 11-25-2015 09:01 AM

The one at 3:05 is brutal.

I doubt there were survivors.

john70t 11-25-2015 09:05 AM

Every Driver's Ed should require hours of this stuff.
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More:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashcamgifs
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam

flipper35 11-25-2015 09:19 AM

Yup. Last Friday coming home in some significant snow we were putzing along at 30mph on a four lane along with everyone else but there were a few in the ditch and we saw probably half a dozen cars that could not make it up a hill. Just sat and spun. Why don't they stay off the road or get good tires.

The amount of speed these people were carrying in that video was unbelievable.

flipper35 11-25-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8891694)
The one at 3:05 is brutal.

I doubt there were survivors.

I wondered that too. There wasn't anything left of the vehicle. Another case of too much speed. Slower and he wouldn't have crossed the median.

widebody911 11-25-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VincentVega (Post 8891517)
Unreal how fast some in the video were driving.

I used to think that, but after viewing my own GoPro-as-a-dash-cam footage, I've noticed that my travel speed seems to be exaggerated, especially at higher frame rates.

tcar 11-25-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 8891437)
What do they do there? Issue dash cams to everyone who hasn't got a license yet?

Was told that almost everyone has one there... it's the only evidence there is for accident cause.

Of course it's not good for the one that causes it.

Crowbob 11-25-2015 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 8891852)
I used to think that, but after viewing my own GoPro-as-a-dash-cam footage, I've noticed that my travel speed seems to be exaggerated, especially at higher frame rates.

It seems a lot of those accidents are proof positive of driving too fast irregardless* of GoPro frame rates, about which I know nothing.



*still not a word, I think

GH85Carrera 11-25-2015 12:28 PM

Some of those clips could be played in slow motion and it would still look like they were driving WAY too fast for the conditions.

aigel 11-25-2015 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8891679)
Why the fk people continue to live in places like that is totally beyond me.

Not easy to leave if you are Siberian. But you can leave if you are in Minnesota, North Dakota etc. etc. - and there are MILLIONS of people that don't. That's what's crazy to me.

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aigel 11-25-2015 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 8891437)
What do they do there? Issue dash cams to everyone who hasn't got a license yet?

LOL

The high rate of dash cams is due to fraud. People causing accidents and trying to collect on insurance. I.e. by getting in front of your vehicle and slamming the brakes, then claiming you rear-ended them. Even putting it in reverse at intersection to end up with a claim. Pretty bad sign for the state of your society if such behavior is widespread ...

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Tobra 11-25-2015 02:20 PM

I remember living in Texas when there were sub freezing temps that lasted about a week, maybe 1995. There was a long bridge by the Lake Conroe dam on 105. I think the speed limit was 65 mph, but I slowed down to about 25 before I got to the bridge. Guy flew by me in a brodozer F-250 in the left lane, hit the bridge, did a perfect 990* spin, put his grill into the guard rail, did a 270* spin and put the driver's side into the rail, ground to a halt pointing the wrong way. Still had the window sticker on it, too new for license plates.

LEAKYSEALS951 11-25-2015 04:49 PM

Good lord, how many people got killed in that video?
That would have been a "faces of death" video 20 years ago. Now it's just "ouch...whatever...."

dewolf 11-25-2015 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve (Post 8891328)

That one with the big truck towards the end - I don't see how anybody could have survived that one.

The accident took place on February 24, 2012 near the village of Omutischi Petushki in Russia's Vladimir Region. The driver of the SUV was killed. Reports indicate that the SUV driver probably lost control after his wheel hit a furrow of wet snow.

masraum 11-25-2015 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 8892207)
I remember living in Texas when there were sub freezing temps that lasted about a week, maybe 1995. There was a long bridge by the Lake Conroe dam on 105. I think the speed limit was 65 mph, but I slowed down to about 25 before I got to the bridge. Guy flew by me in a brodozer F-250 in the left lane, hit the bridge, did a perfect 990* spin, put his grill into the guard rail, did a 270* spin and put the driver's side into the rail, ground to a halt pointing the wrong way. Still had the window sticker on it, too new for license plates.

Yep, I was here for that. It was winter of 95 or maybe 96. At least in Houston the guy could say "but I've never driven in cold conditions like this," but it was mostly due to "This truck is bad-arsed, it doesn't have to slow down for anything."

David 11-25-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian 162 (Post 8891076)
Can you believe the first crash. The guy literally followed the tracks of an earlier accident and landing right beside the other vehicle.

That happens a lot on a race track especially in the rain 😀

masraum 11-25-2015 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 8892490)
That happens a lot on a race track especially in the rain 😀

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enzo1 11-25-2015 06:42 PM

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