Interesting video comparing different porsches.SC Turbo Boxster 996

[faverymi]

Don't know the people.
Actually driven all those cars.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Interesting, albeit poorly produced, video. Not super surprising, on a track with long straights I think the 930 would have beaten the Boxster but still probably not passed the 996. The 996 has similar power to weight, no lag, and the benefit of 15 years worth of development and technology.

I've driven all of them, and owned plenty of 986s and 996s. Both are screaming deals for what you get, especially the 986 Boxster which is fantastic to drive. Someday I suspect another 986 or 996 will join my SC in the garage.

Just an aside, if you are going to market your cars in a Youtube video, make sure they are sorted first. All were filthy with lots of swirls in the paint, the 986 top was in terrible shape and didn't fit correctly and the 911SC badge was about to fall off.

[Seahawk]

Very enjoyable. Thanks for posting that.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

How do you think your Boxster would fair Felipe?

[GH85Carrera]

It would interesting to add a stock 1985 959 to a test like that. Almost everyone in 85 was astonished at the fantastic performance of the 959. It is now beyond crazy money expensive. I suspect a new 991 Turbo from 2016 would outperform the 959 by a lot except maybe for top speed. 31 years of technology is impossible to beat.

Was there any street car made in the mid 80s or before than can beat the lap times of a new Porsche 911?

[widgeon13]

Looks to me like the SC lost a little time right off the line.

[faverymi]

I'm not a super driver but my boxster makes me look really fast and it's just too easy. When I drive the old aircooled stuff I feel slow, twitchy, raw but it's sooo much fun.

I was surprised the 930 didn't perform better. Maybe the track or the driver.

And I agree if you are showcasing your vehicles they should be in better condition

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Was there any street car made in the mid 80s or before than can beat the lap times of a new Porsche 911?

I think an 87-89 928 could best a 996 on the track. Just a guess though.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I think an 87-89 928 could best a 996 on the track. Just a guess though.

928S4 is similar power but heavier, 996 is 10+ years better developed, I would put my money on the 996.

[Seahawk]

I do know one thing.

When my Dad bought his 1993 RX7 I was living in a place called Cobb Island, Maryland.

The road from HWY 301 to Cobb Island was really well done, with beautiful sweepers, straights, etc.

Late one night my Dad and I decided on a quick test: His RX7 versus my 1983 911SC.

GO!

That was about the last I saw of him

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

928S4 is similar power but heavier, 996 is 10+ years better developed, I would put my money on the 996.

Here's a fun and interesting thread on the topic.

928 handling vs. 911 - Rennlist Discussion Forums

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by widgeon13

Looks to me like the SC lost a little time right off the line.

Agree. Half second.

Narrator was a little windy. Snap over-steer for the 930? Horse pucky. All but the Boxster will demonstrate profound "trailing throttle" over-steer but you have to cook a corner and then be ignorant. I have and I was. It happens faster than I ever imagined it could, even on the newest of rear engine Porsches. They ain't twitchy, though.

Put the Stig in these cars with some seat time and I bet the 930 would come out ahead of the Boxster on that track.

Boxster is a joy to drive fast.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

Here's a fun and interesting thread on the topic.

928 handling vs. 911 - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Can't really argue, I think if you could get the weight out of a 928 it would be very competitive. Of course at that point it's not really apples to apples, because you're racing a 996 that still has a full interior, A/C, power windows, power locks, etc......

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Agree. Half second.

Narrator was a little windy. Snap over-steer for the 930? Horse pucky. All but the Boxster will demonstrate profound "trailing throttle" over-steer but you have to cook a corner and then be ignorant. I have and I was. It happens faster than I ever imagined it could, even on the newest of rear engine Porsches. They ain't twitchy, though.

Put the Stig in these cars with some seat time and I bet the 930 would come out ahead of the Boxster on that track.

Boxster is a joy to drive fast.

The 986 is a superb driving car, but that track definitely favored a lightweight mid-engined configuration. It looked to have very little in the way of straights, so the 930 probably didn't spend much time on boost. A longer track with more high speed sections would probably flip that time difference pretty quickly.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

It looked to have very little in the way of straights, so the 930 probably didn't spend much time on boost.

To be honest, I was picturing the Yellowbird at Nurburgring which is different.

Beer has been consumed. I stand down.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

To be honest, I was picturing the Yellowbird at Nurburgring which is different.

Beer has been consumed. I stand down.

Few statements in bench racing are absolute. But I can say, with absolute certainty, that a Ruf Yellowbird can best a 1997 Boxster around a track. With that bombshell dropped, I will go to bed.

[Bill Douglas]

It was nice to see, and I'm quite surprised, to see the SC do so well.

Yay, go SC!

I wonder how Joe Average SC would do (ROW 204HP, 964 cam, SSIs, a bit of weight loss...)?

[Nickshu]

Cool. That Renstall place went up right near my Greeley office about a year ago. I heard it was started by a long-time PCA racer/instructor guy, but don't know him. I drive by all the time, but I have yet to stop in. They have some cool looking cars there all the time. I was surprised to watch the video and see "Rennstall Greeley, CO" on all the cars. Guess it's time to swing by and check it out.

They have a cool website: http://www.rennstall-usa.com/

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Can't really argue, I think if you could get the weight out of a 928 it would be very competitive. Of course at that point it's not really apples to apples, because you're racing a 996 that still has a full interior, A/C, power windows, power locks, etc......

But you are still driving a 996.

[911SauCy]

I was done when the "pro" bucked the SC off the line...

If that guy is a "Pro Driver", I'm Ayrton Senna.

Then, again, those don't look like great tires...

OneWhipped, I'm with you on the presentation of the cars.

[Gogar]

Sure are a lot of video producers and professional drivers in here