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yellowperil 04-08-2016 02:32 PM

Thinking of buying a new Hemi
 
A new VINTAGE Hemi that is., 426ci. of course. They can be had at Indy Cylinder Head
and a few other places. Anybody been there done that as far as Hemi engines go?

They're not giving them away so have to do a bit of research. Actually the local Dodge dealer maybe able to get us one. New crate. We'll find out Monday.

They can be a costly thing to fix so I think a used unit from ebay, for example, is a bit risky. The thing most likely to break on a Hemi? Your bank account.

The guy I work for seems to "need" one, so I kinda volunteered to help locate. I love my work.

speeder 04-08-2016 11:53 PM

So what does one go for?

yellowperil 04-09-2016 05:08 AM

Seem to be from $17,500 -$25,000 or more. We think we can get a long block
from the local dodge dealer for $15,500. But we'll see what Monday brings. It might not happen, but it's fun looking.

Adam 04-09-2016 05:10 AM

What are you gonna put that thing in?

yellowperil 04-09-2016 05:29 AM

My friend has a charger and he'd like to build a tribute car like Buddy Bakers blue #88 that turned the first 200+ mph. Not easy and not cheap. But.... It's his $$

This one would do the trick, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1460204553.jpg


Bakers carhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1460204707.jpg

yellowperil 04-09-2016 05:37 AM

I could barely afford this one!
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1460205415.jpg

pavulon 04-09-2016 05:59 AM

Hope he has enough sense to have the heads and intake (if not the block too) done in aluminum!!

yellowperil 04-09-2016 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 9072244)
Hope he has enough sense to have the heads and intake (if not the block too) done in aluminum!!

I doubt it. The heads may be affordable, but I doubt the alum block would be. Only ones I know of would be Keith Black, he's out of our league.

nota 04-09-2016 06:58 AM

Mopar Pro Shop - Mopar Performance Parts (MoPowered) - PERFORMANCE ENGINES

yellowperil 04-09-2016 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 9072301)

Thanks NOTA, I had just been looking at that site. Under big crate engines the 426 465 horse is the one we're looking at for $17000, but we think the local dealer has that engine for 15,500, kind of as a promo. (People don't drop in every day to purchase one). Sounds like a bargain to me. ('course it's not my money)

Good fun.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1460211468.jpg

GH85Carrera 04-09-2016 07:26 AM

Thinking of buying a new Hemi
 
Wow, amazing they are so expensive. More than the 3.2 liter hemi in my 911 ;) And it is an aluminum block! ;)

Steve Carlton 04-09-2016 08:32 AM

What's it going into?

yellowperil 04-09-2016 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 9072420)
What's it going into?

Probably just go into the corner of the garage for now. We've thoughts of building a Dodge Daytona or a Superbird, but..... no matter how you look at it that would be EXPENSIVE, motor, donor car, kit for the snout and big wing,
rear window has to be changed etc Big $$$ So it might not happen, but everybody should have a 426 Hemi right?

So if we get this engine (hemi) it might just go in a charger or a cuda as a street musclecar.

creaturecat 04-09-2016 09:34 AM

are the Superbirds/Daytonas now considered attractive?
me? i'd stick that motor in a Dodge Dart.

yellowperil 04-09-2016 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 9072480)
are the Superbirds/Daytonas now considered attractive?
me? i'd stick that motor in a Dodge Dart.

You're right. My first choice a '66 'Cuda.

nota 04-09-2016 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 9072483)
You're right. My first choice a '66 'Cuda.

I doNOT think a hemi will fit in the early cuda as it is too small
67 and later cars were a bit bigger and did use the hemi

yellowperil 04-09-2016 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 9072547)
I doNOT think a hemi will fit in the early cuda as it is too small
67 and later cars were a bit bigger and did use the hemi

Good to know, thanks

yellowperil 04-25-2016 01:42 PM

Here's the donor car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 9072420)
What's it going into?

Doesn't look like much now, but it will at a later date, I think. Pretty solid (and affordable) old car IMO

Now to get that Hemi ordered!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461616853.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461616879.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461616905.jpg

creaturecat 04-25-2016 02:54 PM

you have to change out the crossmember to accommodate the hemi, yes?

yellowperil 04-25-2016 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 9094536)
you have to change out the crossmember to accommodate the hemi, yes?

Yes different "K" member

Alfasrule 04-25-2016 03:25 PM

Buy an ALFA they're all HEMI's Dodge copied it!! That's why they are buddies now. Mines a 2.65L V8 HEMI and she kicks butt!!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461623023.jpg

Alfasrule 04-25-2016 03:28 PM

Buy an ALFA they're all HEMI's Dodge copied it!! That's why they are buddies now. Mines a 2.65L V8 HEMI and she kicks butt!!
Not my motor but here's a picture, mine quite older and not restored!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461623023.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461623277.jpg

Tobra 04-25-2016 04:17 PM

I may know someone who could put you on to a wing car, or something appropriate for that mill to go into, anyway. He had a Superbird shell, original 440 car, but may have sold it. Had a few others

yellowperil 04-25-2016 04:18 PM

Car and motor look good. I really like Alfas, always wanted a '70's GTV. Is that a Montreal?

Alfasrule 04-25-2016 04:37 PM

One of 3800 Da Pumpkin! Yes it is. It's a time capsule. I own 7 and she's awesome. Bought her 20 years ago for 17K GOK what's it's worth, don't care I just drive her when I can. You can't imagine. Ask urseppos he got to drive me Race Car and that's a 2L. I got an ALFA Museum in VT. All are invited!! Did Porsche ever build a HEMI??

creaturecat 04-25-2016 05:39 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461631151.jpg

Steve Carlton 04-25-2016 06:50 PM

Would the 426 be more streetable than the original? I believe back in the day, the 440 was more practical, but the 426 has the cache, I suppose even in a tribute car. Probably enough to justify the cost difference. Was that Charger originally green (Sublime)?

Brian 162 04-25-2016 07:17 PM

An old friend in high school had a 71 GTX with a hemi. His dad owned a shop and bought up any late 60 and 70 muscle cars. This was in 1977 when the value was down.
Steve was correct. the 440 was more practical (hydraulic lifters). The hemi was high maintenance always adjusting the valves. But it was worth it. The sound of that engine wide open or just at idle was priceless.

yellowperil 04-26-2016 03:10 AM

Yeah, its lure is the look and sound. These toys are mostly for show.

Rednine11 04-26-2016 05:44 AM

I have been working on 426's for close to 20 yrs.......

Rednine11 04-26-2016 05:52 AM

Nice 70 Charger
to get the 426 to live in there we need to know first if that is a big block or small block car . the rad opening is different. 22 inch for small block or 26 for big block or Hemi also the fuel pickup in the tank as well as the lines will be too small. next is motor mounts. schumacker makes swap mount to stuff a 426 on 440 mounts. then brakes, if you want power brakes you have to move the brake booster over using a Z bracket or it will hit the valve covers. most people run manual disc using a master cylinder from a later half ton Dodge truck.
CALL RAY BARTON

Rednine11 04-26-2016 06:05 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461675919.jpg

Rednine11 04-26-2016 06:07 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1461676031.jpg

Rednine11 04-26-2016 06:09 AM

just pulled this one out of my 70 Challenger for a rebuild
by the way...........Happy Hemi Day today's date is 426

Rednine11 04-26-2016 07:52 AM

Also, I know where you can get the wing, rear window plug and nose cone for the Charger.

Steve Carlton 04-26-2016 08:00 AM

It's amazing that in the day, those winged cars just sat and sat on dealers' lots, eventually being sold cheap!

creaturecat 04-26-2016 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 9095371)
It's amazing that in the day, those winged cars just sat and sat on dealers' lots, eventually being sold cheap!

there were 6 of them in the back row, at Westport Chrysler, when i bought my '70 T/A Challenger. for 3200 bucks,

Yorkie 04-26-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 9095371)
It's amazing that in the day, those winged cars just sat and sat on dealers' lots, eventually being sold cheap!

I think they were the equivalent of todays winged WRXs and Evos. To most people they just looked stupid. Today you have to be really comfortable with small boys pointing at you if you want to drive a Winged Mopar.

yellowperil 04-26-2016 12:25 PM

I agree with all above who say "don't do it" but my friend wants a Dodge Daytona and I think that's what's goin' to happen.

So the back window is different too. First hurdle I suspect. Could be a long road
with a lot of bumps.

yellowperil 04-26-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rednine11 (Post 9095358)
Also, I know where you can get the wing, rear window plug and nose cone for the Charger.

OH!! Do tell! Somewhere on the east coast?


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