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MMMickey 07-14-2016 09:47 AM

Over the past four days, I've been called a scheister, a good dad, a shameless, spineless individual, an opportunist, and a bad example to my kids. While I have my 15 minutes of
fame, I will take the opportunity to tell everyone my story. We've been making emblems since the 1890's, back when Spaniards roamed the country, and up until last Saturday when a
huge fire consumed both our home and livelihood. I walked out of the blaze with nothing but the clothes on my back, and 2,000 pesos in my wallet. I lost my dog that night, my loyal
companion for 6 years.
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For every 100 guys that are genuinely helpful, there will always be that one nay-sayer. "Scammer!" shouts one guy. Why help someone who collects sports cars, for crying out loud?
The truth is, I set aside some money for my kids early on. This I did before I splurged on my passion -- cars. Trust fund for my eldest, a nice condo unit along Macapagal, and some
money in the bank. I am financially informed, and I could, if I wanted to, just pack up and leave with what I have put aside for myself, and abandon the 120 guys that depend on us. But
no. I will not do that. My father will not do that. None of us will. I have a million pesos in donations, and a little more from my own stash. Proceeds from the sale of my cars will likewise go to the rebuild effort.
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I am already at 1/3 of my target, and with your help, can collect the full $50,000 needed to rehabilitate some of our machines and try to operate the company on limp mode. An opportunist, you
say? This is our opportunity to shut down a business that hasn't made us any real money in years. I'm 38 years old, able-bodied despite being blind in one eye, married to a wonderful
wife who's equally qualified to work, and have very little reason to pour my life's savings back into a company that has struggled to survive since before my time. It costs far less money
to shut a business down than to restart one. To close, I only hope that should a fate such as mine befall you, good guys like Angie Mead King, Marc Soong, and the Top Gear crew will
be there to help you out. I am now poor, but have never been richer in terms of friends

Norm K 07-14-2016 10:05 AM

^^^
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john70t 07-14-2016 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMickey (Post 9198807)
I walked out of the blaze with nothing but the clothes on my back, and 2,000 pesos in my wallet. I lost my dog that night,
.
The truth is, I set aside some money for my kids early on. This I did before I splurged on my passion -- cars. Trust fund for my eldest, a nice condo unit along Macapagal, and some money in the bank.
I am financially informed, and I could, if I wanted to, just pack up and leave
I have a million pesos in donations, and a little more from my own stash. Proceeds from the sale of my cars will likewise go to the rebuild effort.
.
married to a wonderful wife who's equally qualified to work, and have very little reason to pour my life's savings back into a company that has struggled to survive since before my time.

To close, I only hope that should a fate such as mine befall you, good guys like Angie Mead King, Marc Soong, and the Top Gear crew will
be there to help you out.
^^^??????

I am now poor, but have never been richer in terms of friends

There is so much that doesn't jive.

stomachmonkey 07-14-2016 10:52 AM

This

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMickey (Post 9198807)
This is our opportunity to shut down a business that hasn't made us any real money in years.......(I) have very little reason to pour my life's savings back into a company that has struggled to survive since before my time.

Makes this seem like a forgone conclusion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMickey (Post 9198807)
......and could, if I wanted to, just pack up and leave with what I have put aside for myself, and abandon the 120 guys that depend on us. But no. I will not do that.

I have not read the whole thread but in all honesty while I have empathy for your situation I'd be highly reluctant to donate to something even the recipient does not believe in.

Why should I care more about them than you?

You feel you have an obligation to those 120 staff which is admirable and speaks highly of you but at the end of the day you don't believe in the business.

Leave your emotions at the door.

You had a struggling low profit business before the fire and now expect to run it in limp mode?

That's not a workable business case.

Those 120 people are going to be out of a job, the question is not if, it's when.

If it's your intent to keep revenue flowing until they find other work great, good on you. You are what we call a mensch.

But if you think this is a viable long term solution then you are kidding yourself.

You might be better off taking the donated funds and splitting it up as severance for them and move on with your life.

You seem like a good guy, your heart is in the right place, but that does not mean it's the right thing to do.

For you or anyone else.

In all sincerity I wish you the best.

sammyg2 07-14-2016 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMickey (Post 6203141)
Hi guys!

Can anyone here suggest an independent Porsche specialist near Woodland Hills, CA? I have an '88 3.2 Carrera that needs a bit of this and a bit of that. It would be nice to bring her over to someone who knows these cars. :)

TIA!

Mickhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1313678512.jpg

Posted on 08-18-2011, 06:41 AM

sammyg2 07-14-2016 11:02 AM

Then he posted:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMickey (Post 6203517)
Alright, guys! It looks like I'm heading over to TRE next week. :)

on 08-18-2011, 09:48 AM


Maybe we should ask the TRE guys if he ever showed?

sammyg2 07-14-2016 11:06 AM

in 2012 he posted a wanted ad:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMickey (Post 6845111)
Hi there! Looking for the following:

-4pc pedal set
-red extensions
-adjustable lifter plate
-driver's floor board
-passenger's floor board


Items to be shipped to CA, 91792.

Thanks for looking!


wildthing 07-14-2016 11:50 AM

Business not making money should be shut down. That's just bad business.

MMMickey 07-14-2016 11:58 AM

That's where I bought the car from SammyG2. Brought in from CA. Anyway, thanks for the hits on the website. you guys are helping me more than you know.

stomachmonkey 07-14-2016 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9198909)
in 2012 he posted a wanted ad:


Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMickey (Post 6770059)
Bought a silver, 1988 Carrera coupe from a certain Steven Dick sometime ago. Had the car shipped to Manila, Philippines where it now permanently resides. I requested the DMV for an ownership history report and the following names turned up:

License plate: 6APT274, SoCal area. :)

1. Nicholas Walter Andrews
2. Young Mitchell / Lani Mitchell
3. John Jay Ryan
4. Brent McHenry


Anyone know any of these guys? Would be cool if they were right here on Pelican!


He had the car shipped to Philippines.

Some of his other posts from later on are consistent with not being stateside.

Still, does not answer the other questions.

stomachmonkey 07-14-2016 12:02 PM

Not entirely convinced he's a scammer.

Think he's just prone to poor decision making and needs a reality check.

ossiblue 07-15-2016 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9198988)
Not entirely convinced he's a scammer.

Think he's just prone to poor decision making and needs a reality check.

Well, did anyone else read the OP's last post that he has since deleted? I wish I had quoted it so it would have been preserved.

In summary, he posted that he now has enough money that he is going to purchase another 911. It was up to the readers of this thread to determine if he was mocking the critics on the board, and he concluded by thanking all for sending all the "clicks" to his funding page.

WolfeMacleod 07-15-2016 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossiblue (Post 9200092)
Well, did anyone else read the OP's last post that he has since deleted? I wish I had quoted it so it would have been preserved.

In summary, he posted that he now has enough money that he is going to purchase another 911. It was up to the readers of this thread to determine if he was mocking the critics on the board, and he concluded by thanking all for sending all the "clicks" to his funding page.

I saw that, and I think he was being snarky due to all the "scammer!" accusations that have been flung at him.

ossiblue 07-15-2016 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 9200101)
I saw that, and I think he was being snarky due to all the "scammer!" accusations that have been flung at him.

Oh, I agree. Just a douche move, IMO, and was a bit surprised that he deleted it. A real troll move.

cashman 07-15-2016 09:08 AM

I'm on the fence if his situation is real. I originally thought it was. However, a lot of valid points were brought up by the Pelicanites. My observation was he had an awful lot of time to respond to an internet site 5 times a day while rebuilding his business?

MBAtarga 07-15-2016 10:10 AM

Curiosity got the best of me - so I went over and looked at his FB page. I think he is taking advantage of the situation. Even mentions on FB, the business never really made them any money? He posted that he was even resorting to selling a condo unit that had been bought as a long term investment. Guess the Porsche isn't still a consideration....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1468602497.jpg

ckelly78z 07-15-2016 11:23 AM

Maybe it's a foreign (Phillipine's) thing, to keep asking to fund him after most here have expressed how they feel of this situation. It sounds like I have had far less success than you, and less money over my life, and far more life changing occurances (see post 39 earlier in this thread), and it just baffles me why you would still be asking for help.

I would never consider asking for, or accepting volunteered help from online aquaintences, or family for that matter. I believe it is in poor taste to make us uncomfortable/feel guilty for being the benefactors of better decision making than yourself, and not sharing the wealth (or lack thereof).

masraum 07-15-2016 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 9198831)

Nice!
Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9198865)
There is so much that doesn't jive.

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McLovin 07-15-2016 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 9200159)
I'm on the fence if his situation is real. I originally thought it was. However, a lot of valid points were brought up by the Pelicanites. My observation was he had an awful lot of time to respond to an internet site 5 times a day while rebuilding his business?

Real or not, one thing for sure is he has lied and/or been deceptive.

He's gone from "I'm poor, and have nothing but the clothes on my back and 2,000 pesos in my wallet," to "I am very financially secure and savvy, have a luxury condo, trust fund for my kids, a Porsche 911." From "I had no insurance" to "I have insurance but it doesn't cover everything" etc. A lot of deception.

So, yeah, that alone makes it a scam.

McLovin 07-15-2016 11:48 AM

Next thing he's going to be asking to borrow your pickup truck.


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