Trudeau's Canadian Tuxedo

[yellowperil]

At The Tragically Hip Concert

[steve185]

Justin Trudashian, hopefully he will get to doing some work soon.

[yellowperil]

Originally Posted by steve185

Justin Trudashian, hopefully he will get to doing some work soon.

Why take a chance ?

[JJ 911SC]

Another Phoney Photo-op

[JD159]

Originally Posted by steve185

Justin Trudashian, hopefully he will get to doing some work soon.

https://www.trudeaumetre.ca

So far about half of what he has claimed to do has either been accomplished, failed or started. Having looked through their criteria for what is considered a fail, many aren't really failures, but slight shortcomings. I emailed them requesting they add a third category for things that fall in-between.

If you don't look to see what our government is doing, you won't find anything.

In no way do I think he is the saviour, but he is a hell of a lot better than Harper. Id prefer a leader with more transparency, what seems like a good heart and a love for Canada. Harper pushed his own agenda and used trickery and deceit to get what he wanted done. He had to go.

[yellowperil]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

Another Phoney Photo-op

No, ... Really? I'm just glad he's not back at the PMO writing up new ways to devise higher taxes, and such.

[creaturecat]

two thumbs up here.
a good man. pretty certain of that.

[JD159]

Originally Posted by creaturecat

two thumbs up here.
a good man. pretty certain of that.

Yup

[billybek]

At least he has a shirt on this time.
... And good hair ...
The jury hasn't heard all the evidence yet but I truly hope he does well for Canada's sake.

[steve185]

Probably headed to Canadian PARF soon. Sorry Yellowperil. I am neither a liberal or conservative, have voted for both in the past. Didn't vote for this one though. I hope he succeeds but I have not and don't see it happening. We and mostly our children are going to pay for his blundering(spending) for years.

[yellowperil]

Originally Posted by steve185

Probably headed to Canadian PARF soon. Sorry Yellowperil. I am neither a liberal or conservative, have voted for both in the past. Didn't vote for this one though. I hope he succeeds but I have not and don't see it happening. We and mostly our children are going to pay for his blundering(spending) for years.

I take my politics very lightly, but I gotta say Justin's got one heck of a car!

[JD159]

Originally Posted by steve185

Probably headed to Canadian PARF soon. Sorry Yellowperil. I am neither a liberal or conservative, have voted for both in the past. Didn't vote for this one though. I hope he succeeds but I have not and don't see it happening. We and mostly our children are going to pay for his blundering(spending) for years.

I didn't hear the Canadian conservatives crying when Harper was running a deficit. All of a sudden Trudeau does and it is the end of the world. Harper manufactured a surplus for political perception during an election year.

24 Sussex Drive is a **** hole. Nobody wants to spend the money to fix it because people complain. Ambassadors and guests to our country can't even stay in our "white house" because it is such a dump. Yes it will cost a few million up front, but we are paying hundreds of thousands a year in trying to keep a sinking ship afloat.

My point is, sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Right now an investment has been made. In a few years, we have to look back at that investment, and if the outcome is positive, we express our support, if negative, gimme a better prime minster from either party, doesn't matter.

I'm like you. Neither liberal nor conservative. Not saying you are this, but I don't like when people always see a glass as half empty just because it isn't "their" political party. Nobody seems to be able to look at things objectively. Everyone has to pick a side.

[TheMentat]

Originally Posted by JD159

I didn't hear the Canadian conservatives crying when Harper was running a deficit. All of a sudden Trudeau does and it is the end of the world. Harper manufactured a surplus for political perception during an election year.

To be fair, most Conservatives would agree that deficit spending is acceptable in lousy economic climates, provided surpluses are run in other times to balance hem out. The fact that Harper returned to a surplus prior to an election may have been politically favorable, but it was also sensible from an economic perspective.

Growth in Canada these days is arguably slow, but certainly not at crisis levels, or even recession levels. I think it's harder to justify deficit spending in a climate like this... Wouldn't it be nice to keep some dry powder in case things actually deteriorate substantially?

[Iciclehead]

Originally Posted by JD159

I didn't hear the Canadian conservatives crying when Harper was running a deficit. All of a sudden Trudeau does and it is the end of the world. Harper manufactured a surplus for political perception during an election year.

24 Sussex Drive is a **** hole. Nobody wants to spend the money to fix it because people complain. Ambassadors and guests to our country can't even stay in our "white house" because it is such a dump. Yes it will cost a few million up front, but we are paying hundreds of thousands a year in trying to keep a sinking ship afloat.

My point is, sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Right now an investment has been made. In a few years, we have to look back at that investment, and if the outcome is positive, we express our support, if negative, gimme a better prime minster from either party, doesn't matter.

I'm like you. Neither liberal nor conservative. Not saying you are this, but I don't like when people always see a glass as half empty just because it isn't "their" political party. Nobody seems to be able to look at things objectively. Everyone has to pick a side.

I too have no particular issue running a deficit when it is affordable and when prudence requires investment. And as a conservative, I firmly and forcefully put my feedback into Harper when he ran a deficit for many of the same reasons that others are criticizing Trudeau.

The concern with Trudeau is that his mindset appears to be one of tax and spend liberalism, particularly riding on a populist coat-tail of "tax those rich buggers to give to the rest of us".

The man is not particularly bright and does not have a terribly strong team around him, so being able to put a deficit spending programme together that includes when and how to pay it back is likely beyond their capabilities.

I note that it was a Liberal that slayed the deficit of the '90's, but only when Canada had its near to death experience financially. I just wish Trudeau was up front about the need to invest, perhaps at a deficit level but with a mind set to stop the deficit spending as soon as possible.

Plus the endless photo ops that the media expounds only trivializes whatever talent the lad actually has....

Dennis

[Cdnone1]

I'd be smiling and wearing the same thing if I was going to see the last Hip show

[yellowperil]

Originally Posted by Cdnone1

I'd be smiling and wearing the same thing if I was going to see the last Hip show

And I think every single Canadian appreciated that he was there with Gord

[JD159]

Originally Posted by Iciclehead

I too have no particular issue running a deficit when it is affordable and when prudence requires investment. And as a conservative, I firmly and forcefully put my feedback into Harper when he ran a deficit for many of the same reasons that others are criticizing Trudeau.

The concern with Trudeau is that his mindset appears to be one of tax and spend liberalism, particularly riding on a populist coat-tail of "tax those rich buggers to give to the rest of us".

The man is not particularly bright and does not have a terribly strong team around him, so being able to put a deficit spending programme together that includes when and how to pay it back is likely beyond their capabilities.

I note that it was a Liberal that slayed the deficit of the '90's, but only when Canada had its near to death experience financially. I just wish Trudeau was up front about the need to invest, perhaps at a deficit level but with a mind set to stop the deficit spending as soon as possible.

Plus the endless photo ops that the media expounds only trivializes whatever talent the lad actually has....

Dennis

Fair points to both TheMentat and Iciclehead. Not everything Harper did was bad. He did do good. Just needed to do a line change because he was tired and wouldn't get off the ice

[Iciclehead]

Originally Posted by JD159

Fair points to both TheMentat and Iciclehead. Not everything Harper did was bad. He did do good. Just needed to do a line change because he was tired and wouldn't get off the ice

Harper was becoming a harpie...he needed to go.

Dennis

[Oracle]

Originally Posted by yellowperil

And I think every single Canadian appreciated that he was there with Gord

Just another setting for more selfies and self promotion...

Time will tell if the "transparency and sunny ways" was what Canada really needed...

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by JD159

https://www.trudeaumetre.ca

So far about half of what he has claimed to do has either been accomplished, failed or started. Having looked through their criteria for what is considered a fail, many aren't really failures, but slight shortcomings. I emailed them requesting they add a third category for things that fall in-between.

If you don't look to see what our government is doing, you won't find anything.

In no way do I think he is the saviour, but he is a hell of a lot better than Harper. Id prefer a leader with more transparency, what seems like a good heart and a love for Canada. Harper pushed his own agenda and used trickery and deceit to get what he wanted done. He had to go.

I agree 100%. Harper had to go, and I agree with most of Trudeau's positions. Having said that, every time I hear him speak, I cringe... I just can't stand him. Makes it even worse when I agree with what he's saying.

Originally Posted by Oracle

Just another setting for more selfies and self promotion...

Agreed. It came across to me as though he couldn't stand -for even one evening- for someone else to be the center of attention. I would have respected it a lot more if he went discretely and not made such a point of posing for photo ops and doing interviews. He could have done interviews the next day, or done a video talking about what an important moment it was. Would that have been so hard, instead of trying to make that moment HIS?