Going To The Thrift Store

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Originally Posted by KC911

Tabby, when you get private tours of High Point showrooms (LV is still second rate), like the real multi-millionaires do (Oprah, Hollywood stars,etc), you can make your case. I've had access to some nice ones before...had the place to myself. But I'm not wealthy, nor tasteful...nor do I have a big azz draggin' on my jeans either

You know stuff, but you don't know what you don't know...

My little child whoever said anything about LV, LV is a hick town with a serious case of bad taste. Let us try the Blue Whale on Melrose in West Hollywood. In particular the Baker Knapp and Tubbs showroom down in the heart of OC...Aliso Creek Design Center. It was quieter than the Whale. One day Julia Roberts walks by and gives me a second look..

You mean furniture like this... I have a Empire style bar cabinet of crotch fan mahogany, gold Ormolu with a black marble top..
Colombostile - Hand Made / Made in Italy - CLASSIC





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Originally Posted by dewolf

I like these....

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by tabs

My little child whoever said anything about LV, LV is a hick town with a serious case of bad taste. Let us try the Blue Whale on Melrose in West Hollywood. In particular the Baker Knapp and Tubbs showroom down in the heart of OC...Aliso Creek Design Center. It was quieter than the Whale. One day Julia Roberts walks by and gives me a second look....[/url]


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You must've been stylin' in them draggin' azz jeans ?

And High Point isn't even on the map...except when it comes to furniture....where do you think those stores go twice each year to pick their wares? You do not know what you do not know...

[Embraer]

Originally Posted by Gogar

thread of the year

Jeremy sums it up right here.

[jyl]

This has become a snobfest with a few guys trying to one-up each other about stuff that no-one else could give a toss about. Go find a Ferrari SUV and have it out in there, boys. You'll come out all kissy kissy and wearing each other's weirdo clothing.

[sc_rufctr]

It showed promise on the first post.

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Only because I was getting a "crick" in my neck.

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I've known plenty of well off people that pay 35k for a dining room table and a few k for each chair, modern built from the craftsmen. I could not care less about fancy furniture however.

Its the unique combination of confidence and being wrong. Like ferrari suv. If an ff is an suv then a cat is a dog. But you went with "yes I did". Wrong and strong like "yes I can"

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Agreed, crazy but not unheard of

[pwd72s]

This thread amuses me...One of my college friends was gay. A nice and very bright guy. He was obsessed with fashion and design.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by peteremsley

Agreed.

$35k for a dining table? Dang - how about $500 for the table and $34.5k having fun with friends and family around it.

High end furniture is marked up 4-500% if one is shopping in a retail store. In a few weeks, 100k industry insiders will be visiting High Point to decide what the stores that Tabby visits will offer their customers. Hopefully the representatives of Tabby's stores don't come to town wearin' draggin' azz jeans....that might work at the second tier LV furniture trade show...but not here . These shows aren't open to the publc....literally millions of square ft. of permanent showrooms here. High Point is called "the furniture capital of the world" for a reason. I'm pretty sure the cream of the selections never see a retail store. To be clear...I don't run in those circles....neither does Julia Roberts evidently.

Now I'm outta here...this thread has been a hoot

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Originally Posted by aschen

I've known plenty of well off people that pay 35k for a dining room table and a few k for each chair, modern built from the craftsmen. I could not care less about fancy furniture however.

Its the unique combination of confidence and being wrong. Like ferrari suv. If an ff is an suv then a cat is a dog. But you went with "yes I did". Wrong and strong like "yes I can"

You do not read critically, I said "Work of art or antique"....Sam Maloff was a noted furniture maker of Modern furniture who used to live right up the street from me in Alta Loma. The Smithsonian Institution filmed him working as he was considered to be a National Treasure Upon his death his home was going to be turned in a museum, half of it already was a museum. His craftsmanship is considered to be a work of art. Jimmy Carter was a noted customer of his (a Rocking chair). So yes there are Craftsmen whose work is beyond the pale. That was my caveat if you had read critically.

Antique furniture from the Colonial and Federalist period are also considered to be works of art as they were all handcrafted to very high standards. Did you ever see a Chipendale Dining room arm chair with the hand carved Ball and Claw feet. Actually timeless in appeal. I have an accurate recreation made under license by Kindel in Grand Rapids, where the original resides in the Henry Dupont Museum in Maryland known as the Wineteaur. An original Pie Crust table like the one that was under license by Kindel sold for 1M USD in the mid 80's at auction. Kindel also under license from the Wineteaur made a Thomas Goddard Rhode Island desk one of 6 known, where an original sold for 14M in the mid 80's.

For instance the Kindel Pie Crust Table has 23 hours of hand carving involved in it's manufacture. Kindel furniture is really second to none in it's manufacture. It is considered or was to be ultra high end furniture. In the past America made some really good furniture by companies like Kittenger, Widicomb and Union Bay, but those companies like so much else are now gone.

Baker Furniture (Holland, MI)in their Stately Homes Collection has license with the British National Trust where they too make licensed accurate recreations of furniture in the Trust. One of their their pieces is a Pembroke Table the original of which resides in Invery Castle in Scotland owned by the Duke of Argyl (priceless) that has seven different types of wood inlaid into it. In its construction the craftsmen to get a shading effect on the wood pieces would slide them through a bucket of hot sand as the original craftsmen did in the late 1700's. So like Kindel, Baker Stately Home furniture is second to none. BTW I have one of those Baker Pembroke Tables.

The other extant ultra high end American furniture mfg is Karges, however their furniture can be considered to be hybrids of the original or classic styles. I now think that Karges and Kindel are owned by the same company. Furniture built to their exacting standards and quality is simply too expensive to be a viable mfg anymore.

Then there is Columbo Stile being the oldest furniture mfg in Rome Italy. Which I posted a link to in a previous post. They at one time made a Rhode Island style desk whose figured burl Mahogny would knock your socks off. Their price in 1990 was 35K.

Further you still don't get that you were being played with the YES I CAN routine? Hmmpt...are you really that dense? I told you that FLAT OUT in a previous post.

Regardless of what you want to call that Ferrari it was a Ferrari parked in front of a THRIFT STORE. END OF STORY AND DISCUSSION as does it really matter what model?

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Originally Posted by pwd72s

This thread amuses me...One of my college friends was gay. A nice and very bright guy. He was obsessed with fashion and design.

I told you I am a BLACK LESBIAN WOMAN who identify s with being a white hetro male.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by tabs

I told you I am a BLACK LESBIAN WOMAN who identify s with being a white hetro male.

LOL

You don't know everything about everything, as stated, but you do know lots of spiffy stuff.

Enjoying the shiet out of this thread.

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Originally Posted by KC911

High end furniture is marked up 4-500% if one is shopping in a retail store. In a few weeks, 100k industry insiders will be visiting High Point to decide what the stores that Tabby visits will offer their customers. Hopefully the representatives of Tabby's stores don't come to town wearin' draggin' azz jeans....that might work at the second tier LV furniture trade show...but not here . These shows aren't open to the publc....literally millions of square ft. of permanent showrooms here. High Point is called "the furniture capital of the world" for a reason. I'm pretty sure the cream of the selections never see a retail store. To be clear...I don't run in those circles....neither does Julia Roberts evidently.

Now I'm outta here...this thread has been a hoot

Really now...40% plus 10% off that off retail is about right.

A good portion of American made furniture is made in North Carolina, they have their showrooms (mostly to the trade) in Hi Point, NC. They also have showrooms in San Francisco and NOW LAS VEGAS. LV will supplant the to the retail trade business as there as so many diversions for the visiting trade buyer. That is coming. That said NC made furniture is NOT THE HIGH END stuff it is the commercial B grade stuff. Drexel Heritage, Thomasville, Hickory and Century while being nice is still B Grade furniture.

Baker Furniture also has their B line, but their cream Stately Home Collection is or was made in Holland Michigan. The Baker arm to the Trade is Baker Knapp and Tubbs. Baker I believe has a BKT showroom in Hi Point as well as in all the major cities in the US. BKT is to the Trade ONLY (Interior Designers) showroom, no retail sales and they are located in to the Trade only DESIGN CENTERS (Blue Whale in LA) and BKT only carry's HIGH END furniture...or the best of the best. No schlock...like Thomas Ville.


So KC your "pretty sure" is just not good enough...Now this is all very old news to me, as I stopped buying and following the furniture trade a long time ago.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

It showed promise on the first post.

She has the Breasts of Life. I expect that she hugs a lot too.

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When I was living in CA I used to be a denizen of the Antique and or Art auctions..one of the places that I was a known was at was Abels in the city of Commerce. Abels would hold a weekly auction and a quarterly auction of high end antiques. Over time I got to hanging with the West LA antiques dealers, they got to know me as a person who knew quality, value and who would not over pay for what I bought. One of the Dealers was a guy who specialized in 1920's Spanish Revial furniture, among his clientele was Cher and Nicholas Cage as that is what they liked. Another had Faye Dunway as a client, and another had a Consignment Shop on San Vicente Blvd in West LA, who consigned Walter Matheau estate, George Hamilton and Barbara Streisand stuff in his shop. He sold all of his celebrity consignments on the QT, but because I knew him from the auctions I was told.

Also at Abels weekly auctions you knew people by sight and chit chatted with them but you just didn't know who they might be. One of my show business friends who frequented Abels one day pointed out a guy as being the son of a man who owned high rise buildings on Wilshire Blvd. The point being that people with a lot of money were beating the bushes for high quality bargains.

At one of the quarterly auctions I watched a man win the bidding on a Paul Store Sterling Silver Wine Cooler and Tankard for 250K. I asked him if they were going to be consigned to Sotherbys he said, "NO they are for my dining room." The reason why I remember it was that those pieces are stunning museum quality pieces of Regency period silver.

On the car note, one of the guys I knew from Abels was an expert on American Cut Glass (as having written a book on the subject), he one day walked up and just out of the blue told me that when he graduated from HS in 74 he bought a 57 Tessa Rossa for 4K, and that he could have bought a 62 GTO for 18K, but didn't have the money for it. He sold the Tessa Rosa at Barrett Jackson in 87 for 250K, the proceeds form which he bought a 5000 sq ft Tudor in Hancock Park in LA. He also had a penchant for Tiffany Lamps the last of which I heard about him was that he dropped 250K for a Tiffany Floor lamp. The thing about him is that he drove a mid 80's brown Chrysler sedan.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by tabs

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So KC your "pretty sure" is just not good enough...Now this is all very old news to me, as I stopped buying and following the furniture trade a long time ago.

Tabs, the old money zillionaires that live around here have some nice stuff...I used to wonder as a kid why the only Bentley/Rolls dealership in NC was across the street from MickeyDs in HP. You do not know what you do not know...despite your draggin' azz jeans . Unless you've seen a glimpse of what I have...maybe you have, I dunno....

Funny azz thread...since you started it...Tabs ftw!!!

Seriously, you know stuff...if you were to ever have the opportunity to visit these showrooms, don't pass it up....it's simply mind boggling, huge, and out of my league for sure. I'd be glad to take you bass fishin' and to Lexington for some great NC 'Q....like I did earlier today...burp

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High Point is the mecca for the American furniture industry.

If I had to do it all over again, I don't know if I would have spent the dinero on the furniture that I did??? I mean I really like those pieces, and they are beautiful, but...I know that after the fact that the way to buy high end stuff is to buy it USED. At Auction or Consignment shops. What is nice about the stuff is that after 25 years it still has a value approximating what I paid for it. You can not say that about other furniture. Anyway.

Old money does not throw their money around. New money does. Mostly the wealthy are rather tight with their money. The caveat is some might have a hobby where they spend inordinate amounts of money on it because they have a passion. Most likely it will be on something substantial, like art, antiques, cars, guns, coins sic something that has an on going value.

They may live well, in expensive homes and have private jets, but that is not out of line with their net worth. It is affordable for them, where to the common folk it is luxury. One of the guys I met socially through my Dad was Walt Emeric. Walt was in his 80's when I met him, he owned a bunch of the tilt up warehouse space in LA (no body knew if he was worth 20M or 100M in the 1980's USD). He drove a couple of 10 year old Chevy PU's dressed in what looked like polyester Thrift Store clothing, lived in Al Jolsons house out in the San Fernando Valley (Kate Segal from Sons of Anarchy now owns it), had a horse ranch in Ky and Simi Valley, and had a twin engine Beech Craft plane. Walts comment to me was that he had to work twice as hard for two weeks to go on vacation fishing for one week in Alaska.

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Funny thread. I've spend my entire life appreciating beauty in all its incarnations. Clothes or furniture have never been on my radar. They are just utilitarian objects to me.

[dewolf]

I found the 'after 5' ones for you



And matching pyjamas