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berettafan 03-27-2017 09:39 PM

Let's hope bullets aren't found inside other homes nearby. A miss with .223 in a residential area isn't a pleasant thing to contemplate.


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WPOZZZ 03-27-2017 09:47 PM

I agree. An AR15 is a lot of firepower for home defense.

speeder 03-27-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 9528824)
It makes a big difference where the shooting occurs. In California, he would do time. In most other states, he goes free.

It depends. If the intruders were inside his house and armed, he'd be fine anywhere. If they were not armed or he chased one out and smoked him, that could be problematic anywhere in the U.S.

rusnak 03-27-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9528836)
It depends. If the intruders were inside his house and armed, he'd be fine anywhere. If they were not armed or he chased one out and smoked him, that could be problematic anywhere in the U.S.

I don't think either of you are correct.

I believe that if an intruder is INSIDE YOUR HOME (my emphasis, sorry just clarifying that), then you do not have to verify that person can kill you before you shoot. In other words, they have to be inside your home when you shoot them. If so, then you do not have to be in imminent danger.

On the other hand, he'd probably do time for the type of weapon used, so.... :(

In California they want you to saw the home intruders in half with buckshot.

BTW, if this happens in your place of business, I wonder if you have to have the robber fill out a questionnaire before you can defend yourself. I should find out.

GH85Carrera 03-28-2017 04:41 AM

He will not have a problem it the law. He should get a medal for good shooting.

GH85Carrera 03-28-2017 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9528836)
It depends. If the intruders were inside his house and armed, he'd be fine anywhere. If they were not armed or he chased one out and smoked him, that could be problematic anywhere in the U.S.

Nope, all he has to say is he was in fear for his life. Three men dressed in black are not there to sell Girl Scout cookies. They broke in planning to do bad things. He was afraid, dead bad guys. All ends well.

onewhippedpuppy 03-28-2017 05:47 AM

Castle doctrine applies in most rational parts of the USA. If they break into your house you automatically have reason to fear for your life and can defend yourself. This guy has nothing to worry about legally.

island911 03-28-2017 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9528998)
.. Three masked men dressed in black are not there to sell Girl Scout cookies. ...

FIFY ... my thoughts exactly ^

ckelly78z 03-28-2017 05:55 AM

Sends a powerful message to other idiots thinking about committing crimes. The media should report more of this kind of news.....Oh wait, that goes against thier liberal agenda !

Rick Lee 03-28-2017 06:12 AM

Has it come out yet when/where the dead guy in the driveway was shot? Because, if he was shot in the back while fleeing and already outside of the house, the shooter needs a good lawyer.

Nickshu 03-28-2017 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9528631)
Job well done, think of all the money that he saved the taxpayers.

^^^ This. :D

And this:
http://slightlywarped.com/wp-content...8ee0b75bd5.jpg

wayner 03-28-2017 06:16 AM

this movie scared me

Felon

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matthewb0051 03-28-2017 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 9529066)
Has it come out yet when/where the dead guy in the driveway was shot? Because, if he was shot in the back while fleeing and already outside of the house, the shooter needs a good lawyer.

The article implies that he was shot inside and was trying to leave when he collapsed in the drive way. My interpretation but seems plausible from the write-up. If this is true, the homeowner's son should be in the clear.

Get away driver has a big problem though. Due to the death of the others in commission of a felony, she can be charged with Felony Murder, which typically is a Death Penalty offense. OK law allows for this charge when the accused or another person takes a life during the commission of the underlying felony. This will also require a charge of conspiracy to commit the aggravated robbery or whatever felony is charged for that offense.

Joe Bob 03-28-2017 06:51 AM

The kid was 19. Wonder how CA woulda handled this situation.....

Dantilla 03-28-2017 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9528836)
If the intruders were inside his house and armed, he'd be fine anywhere. If they were not armed or he chased one out and smoked him, that could be problematic anywhere in the U.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9528994)
He will not have a problem it the law.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9528998)
Nope, all he has to say is he was in fear for his life...

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9529039)
... This guy has nothing to worry about legally.

Unfortunately, when one stands in front of a jury, there are no absolutes.

We all hope the justice system will allow one to protect their own home, but this guy better get a lawyer.

The opposition will soon have the bad guy's mothers on TV, in tears, telling the camera "He was such a good boy. Deadly force was overkill, doncha know...."

matthewb0051 03-28-2017 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 9529115)
Unfortunately, when one stands in front of a jury, there are no absolutes.

We all hope the justice system will allow one to protect their own home, but this guy better get a lawyer.

The opposition will soon have the bad guy's mothers on TV, in tears, telling the camera "He was such a good boy. Deadly force was overkill, doncha know...."

I agree with you on the no absolutes at trial notion.

However, we are talking about Oklahoma where they take this sort of intrusion into a person's home seriously.

This will have to get passed a Grand Jury and the DA before it sees the light of day in court. I'm going with that not likely happening.

ckelly78z 03-28-2017 07:19 AM

Yep "I felt threatened" and was "In fear of my life" is the only two sentences the 19 year old needs to say !

And another great thing for the kid.....no witnesses to dispute his story !

jwasbury 03-28-2017 07:31 AM

In NJ there is a "Duty to Retreat" so the homeowner might be in trouble if it happened here.

varmint 03-28-2017 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 9529115)
Unfortunately, when one stands in front of a jury, there are no absolutes.

We all hope the justice system will allow one to protect their own home, but this guy better get a lawyer.

The opposition will soon have the bad guy's mothers on TV, in tears, telling the camera "He was such a good boy. Deadly force was overkill, doncha know...."



I think that the jury pool would be the citizens of broken bow Oklahoma means he's in no great danger.

vonsmog 03-28-2017 08:33 AM

All the shooter has to say, is the bad guys last words were "I'm going to kill you mother F**ker" That is all the threat needed to waste them all.


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