You canna change the laws of physics

[sammyg2]

Wild Claims
Thanks to the Tesla revival, every absurd claim he made to newspapers back in the day is now being repeated as fact. The truth is that Tesla made many claims so far out of left field that they would destroy a scientist’s credibility even today, often with no evidence or results to back them up. But if Tesla was crazy, he was crazy like a fox. Oftentimes, his claims were reported shortly before the historical experiments of other scientists.For example, when Marconi was gearing up for some important radio signal tests, Tesla told the media that he had already received radio transmissions that he believed were from Mars. With his technology, he claimed, we would soon be able to communicate with other planets almost instantaneously. Other projects he claimed to be working on included a torpedo that could be recalled even after being fired and a powerful death ray.As bizarre as these claims sounded, they gave the impression that Tesla was light-years ahead of everyone else. But if the general public was impressed, the scientific community was decidedly not, regarding Tesla as being mostly full of hot air. While this is an overreaction—Tesla certainly did contribute to our body of scientific knowledge—the plausibility of many of Tesla’s inventions is greatly exaggerated.

Strange Visions
Tesla’s tall tales weren’t confined to his inventions or supposed interactions with Martians. He also believed that he received a variety of important visions. The first occurred when he was walking in the park with a friend after suffering a nervous breakdown due to his constant lack of sleep.According to Tesla, he had a vision of the entire model for his AC motor and started drawing it in the dirt. Considering that he had already stated that he had been thinking about the idea for about six years, he probably wasn’t being entirely truthful.His second “vision” occurred much later in life, involving his beloved pigeons. He claimed that he was alone in his hotel room one night when a white pigeon for whom he harbored particularly great affection came to see him. He was then suddenly blinded by two powerful beams of light that communicated to him that he had finished all of his life’s work and would die soon.

Contribution To Radio
One of the most contentious issues with Tesla is his contribution to the invention of radio. For a long time, Marconi was considered the father of modern radio, but many have claimed recently that Tesla deserves the honor. After all, Tesla claimed that a whopping 17 of his patents were used in Marconi’s device. This caused trouble for Marconi when the time came to secure a patent of his own, but ultimately, the courts ruled in his favor.Tesla was very bitter about the matter, but unfortunately, there isn’t any historical evidence that he actually built a working radio. While Marconi was sending radio signals across the Atlantic, Tesla was too busy boasting to conduct any tests. In fact, the evidence suggests that Tesla didn’t completely understand how electronic waves worked, believing them to be faster than the speed of light. It seems the only person at the time who claimed that Tesla invented radio was Tesla.

The Wardenclyffe Tower Fiasco
Tesla’s most ambitious project—and his biggest failure—was Wardenclyffe Tower. He envisioned a gigantic tower that could transmit incredibly powerful amounts of electricity and wireless communication all around the globe. He asked for $1 million to fund the project, which is close to $30 million in today’s money. However, the only major backer he secured was J.P. Morgan, who offered him $150,000 dollars, or about $4 million now.
Morgan also wanted a stake in Tesla’s patents, which indicates that he might not have had much faith in his investment. Once Tesla had his funding, he went straight to work. He purchased plots of land and hired laborers to build his tower, which consisted of 16 steel supports that went hundreds of feet into the Earth. He intended to use the Earth itself as a conductor and believed that the supports from his tower would “grip the Earth” and “make it quiver” even at those relatively shallow depths.While many people think the structure failed because Tesla didn’t receive the proper funding, he apparently completed the plans outlined in his patent and produced a transmitter. The problem was that it didn’t work. Tesla was desperate to fix it and begged Morgan for more money, but Morgan refused, disappointed in the initial results. Modern-day experts who have studied the Wardenclyffe Tower have come away with more questions than answers. They couldn’t figure out how Tesla’s device was supposed to accomplish its intended purposes, and the same patent that proposed the plan to use the Earth as a conductor contained another plan to shoot the energy into the Earth’s ionosphere. They aren’t sure which method he intended to use or even which one he actually tested. It’s likely that no money in the world would have resulted in the finished product when its designer didn’t even have a clear vision of his immense project.

Nobel Prize Rumors
Among the strangest claims about the Tesla-Edison rivalry concern a contested Nobel Prize. The rumor, which was reported at the time by such esteemed publications as The New York Times, was that Tesla and Edison had been offered a joint Nobel Prize one year. Later rumors claimed that the prize was given to someone else because the two refused to share an award between them, and some even believe that Edison tried to sabotage both of their chances out of spite.The news came as quite a surprise to the Nobel committee, who had already chosen their winners for that year. In response to the rumors, they stated unequivocally that they wouldn’t ever withdraw an award just because the recipient refused it. Furthermore, both Edison and Tesla denied ever being given such an offer. Although both were serious—if unlikely—candidates on a handful of occasions, neither ever won the Nobel Prize.

Popularity In His Time
The modern mythology of Tesla rests on the belief that he was never given the funding he needed, never got the attention he deserved during his time, and suffered the injustice of a world that wasn’t ready for his amazing genius. None of this could be further from the truth.While not every single idea of his was fully funded, which is true for most scientists at all levels of prestige, he received plenty of funding from rich donors. In addition to the generous endowments he received from household names like J.P. Morgan, Tesla was quite popular with the common man. He and Edison were both considered celebrity scientists in their day.Despite the popular conception of him today as a reclusive, misunderstood genius, Tesla was quite the showman. He was known to demonstrate his famous coil in front of frothing crowds who lavished him with attention and support. He was also a media darling who certainly knew how to create buzz around his work and did so whenever possible. The idea that he could have turned the world into a technological utopia if only he had enough money and recognition is patently absurd.

The Earthquake Machine Myth
One of the claims most beloved by Tesla fans is that he built an “earthquake machine.” Unsurprisingly, there are many variations of the story, but they all contain some common elements. Generally, it is said that Tesla was working with some kind of resonance device when he decided to try it on his own building, which caused it and several other buildings in the area to shake. Afraid that he might end up leveled by his own invention, Tesla smashed his machine to pieces with a hammer just as the police arrived to find out what was going on.The apocryphal story has been repeated many times, especially by Tesla himself, who claimed that his machine could “split the Earth like an apple” if he so desired it. He went on to claim that he wasn’t done experimenting with the machine, setting out one evening to see if he could use it to destroy a partially finished tower and fleeing during the panic he caused. However, there was no evidence in the news or any record anywhere to verify these wild stories. Since some people remained unconvinced by the lack of evidence, an episode of Mythbusters featured a test of Tesla’s crazy device to determine whether it was a realistic possibility. They found that such a device set to the right frequency could cause powerful vibrations but wouldn’t cause any serious damage or anything resembling an earthquake. It’s likely simply another of Tesla’s embellishments.

https://listverse.com/2014/09/26/10-uncomfortable-truths-about-nikola-tesla/

[dad911]

Didn't read it, but as an engineering student and computer geek (1980s) if you had told me about the iPhone I would have said it wouldn't be possible, at least in my lifetime.......

[cstreit]

Maybe its gotten a hidden gererator?

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Nikola Tesla (the original real guy) was bordering on insanity and came up with as many crack-pot ridiculous science fiction ideas as he did practical ideas. Maybe more.

We could list some of his ideas and experiments and they'd have you shaking your heads in disbelief.

Much as the current tesla should be.

He was freak of nature smart Sam, no two ways about it.

Funny how many of his totally crackpot ideas came to fruition. With the tower, he got 10% of the funding he asked for and could not make it work without a larger investment, go figure.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by red-beard

SpaceX is the jewel in the Portfolio.

The only jewel.

[scottmandue]

Powered flight.
The motorcycle and automobile.
Putting a man in space.
A lot of things we take for granted today were thought of as crack pot ideas back when they were first proposed.

[flipper35]

Some still do think they are crackpot ideas. Or conspiracies.

[tadd]

Several of tesla's more crazy concepts have mathematical support from Maxwell. Issue is you have to use the full form of Maxwell's equations, not the short form. Tesla's wireless power transmission is an example.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

Powered flight.
The motorcycle and automobile.
Putting a man in space.
A lot of things we take for granted today were thought of as crack pot ideas back when they were first proposed.

Not one of those violated or even bent the rules of physics. Yea, once the prevailing thought that humans could not travel faster than a swift horse or the air would be sucked out of your body.

Doctors thought bleeding a person was a good thing for most medical problems.

Unless Tesla (the company) can change the laws of physics, we are stuck with reality.

Someone else on this board pointed out that in a few decades at most the colleges courses will be taught about the Ponzi scheme and the Musk scheme with equal disdain.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by tadd

Several of tesla's more crazy concepts have mathematical support from Maxwell. Issue is you have to use the full form of Maxwell's equations, not the short form. Tesla's wireless power transmission is an example.

They have been testing wireless charging just by being in a room for some time now. No pad needed.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Tobra

He was freak of nature smart Sam, no two ways about it.

Funny how many of his totally crackpot ideas came to fruition. With the tower, he got 10% of the funding he asked for and could not make it work without a larger investment, go figure.

That funding myth on the tower is de-bunked.
He built the tower and it didn't work. It was not technically functional, he was simply trying to keep up with Marconi in the publicity ring and the tower was smoke and mirrors.


He came up with lots of stuff that worked but for some reason he gets even more credit for his fantasy stuff.

Using that logic, Jules Verne invented the nuclear powered submarine and H.G. Wells invented the time machine so they should get the same respect.

OK the nuke submarine wasn't actually built until 60 years later, and the time machine hasn't actually been built yet, but they dreamed it up so they get full credit for inventing it!

[aschen]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Unless Tesla (the company) can change the laws of physics, we are stuck with reality.

Tesla's recent claims are outrageously optimistic but none of them violate fundamental laws.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by motion

Well, if anyone can do it, its Elon Musk

Have another sip:

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by aschen

Tesla's recent claims are outrageously optimistic but none of them violate fundamental laws.

True. No violation. But most of the time, Elon's hype doesn't live up to reality.

Powerwall

I am tired of people asking if they can use the Powerwall with my system. I'm tired of having to explain why the Powerwall can't do what they need. I'm tired of having to explain why, for a stationary application, Advanced AGM batteries are still the most cost effective and environmentally friendly battery!

[red-beard]

Oh, and I am tired of preppers with no money!

[Tobra]

Sam, I don't know how anyone could argue successfully against such a rational and well reasoned argument