What country do we live, Cuba, China, or it is N Korea?

[look 171]

Renewed kid's passport today and the woman told us that we need a passport to travel within the US. Our CA (or any state )dr lic is no longer excepted as valid ID. Can't board a plane without it if we were going to San Francisco from LA or for what ever reason the authorities wants to see our ID it should be a passport unless you reside within the state. Is this BS true?

[Tervuren]

I stopped flying except international trips so I use my passport anyway.

I'm really not sure.

[Scott R]

It's BS, I fly with guys all the time that don't even have passports.

[motion]

California is not one of the 9 states.

Driver Licenses From Nine States Won’t Be Valid IDs for Domestic Flights in a Year | Travel + Leisure

"Residents of Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Washington will have to use alternate ID forms (passport, military ID, or permanent resident card) to pass TSA security checkpoints—even for domestic travel."

[onewhippedpuppy]

I travel all over the country including CA. Never heard such a thing. My KS DL works everywhere.

[javadog]

From the 'net:

Beginning Jan. 22, 2018, travelers from nine states will no longer be able to travel with only their driver’s licenses.

Residents of Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Washington will have to use alternate ID forms (passport, military ID, or permanent resident card) to pass TSA security checkpoints—even for domestic travel.

On Thursday, the TSA began placing signage around airport security checkpoints to inform travelers of the new TSA rules going into effect in 2018.

The IDs from these nine states do not meet the federal government’s minimum security standards. And, according to the REAL ID Act of 2005, federal agencies (like the TSA) are prohibited from “accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards.”

In order for states to pass the government’s security standards, they must verify every ID applicant’s identity, put anti-counterfeit technology in the production of the card and conduct background checks on those who issue driver’s licenses.

[dafischer]

Some states (9 of them) drivers licenses aren't in compliance with the federal Real ID standards, a law from 2005 that has long been delayed from enforcement. CA is one of the states that hasn't met the standards. The woman was wrong in telling you that no other states' licenses will work.
No problem here, as I always use my passport for travel ID, and I don't feel oppressed.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/tsa-may-soon-stop-accepting-drivers-licenses-from-nine-states/

From the article:

However, nine states and several US territories are due to have their exemption expire on January 10, 2016. The states facing a January expiration are Alaska, California, Illinois, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, South Carolina, and Washington. Puerto Rico, Guam, and the US Virgin Islands face the same deadline. Minnesota and American Samoa are already listed as non-compliant.

[Jim Richards]

Jeff, check this out...

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid/realidfaq

[wswartzwel]

Renewing drivers license to one that complies is like jumping through hoops.... I had to provide Original Birth certificate, Original Social Security card. Utilities Bill, proof of personal property tax... and a few other things to verify I am me. Took me two trips to the DMV to have all my paperwork in order.

[HardDrive]

As to the original post, I don't see how 9 states failing to have a secure drivers license process constitutes us living in a totalitarian state. Hyperbole.

[drkshdw]

Originally Posted by wswartzwel

Renewing drivers license to one that complies is like jumping through hoops.... I had to provide Original Birth certificate, Original Social Security card. Utilities Bill, proof of personal property tax... and a few other things to verify I am me. Took me two trips to the DMV to have all my paperwork in order.

Same plus a few more documents. It took me 3 times and the 3rd DMV lady said what I brought the first time would've worked for her. It depends on who you talk to as to what all you need for it but when I was there, more people were being turned away for not having the proper documents than there were people actually getting their licenses renewed. The whole process was annoying.

[BeyGon]

Doesn't matter to me, when we travel anyplace even drive someplace overnight I take my passport. You never know, you might need/want to go someplace in a hurry.

[motion]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Jeff, check this out...

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid/realidfaq

Jim is onto something re: California. Current DLs are fine until Oct 2020, but a REAL ID will be required for domestic travel after that date.

11. Is a REAL ID a different form of identification than the current California driver license or ID card?

Yes. A REAL ID is a federally approved card that can be used to board a domestic airplane and access certain federal facilities after October 1, 2020. The current California driver license/ID card does not meet the requirements of a REAL ID and will not be accepted by TSA to board a domestic flight or by federal agents to enter certain federal facilities after September 30, 2020. However, both can be used for driving and identification.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Jeff, check this out...

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid/realidfaq

Got it, Jim. Thanks

[look 171]

Originally Posted by motion

Jim is onto something re: California. Current DLs are fine until Oct 2020, but a REAL ID will be required for domestic travel after that date.

11. Is a REAL ID a different form of identification than the current California driver license or ID card?

Yes. A REAL ID is a federally approved card that can be used to board a domestic airplane and access certain federal facilities after October 1, 2020. The current California driver license/ID card does not meet the requirements of a REAL ID and will not be accepted by TSA to board a domestic flight or by federal agents to enter certain federal facilities after September 30, 2020. However, both can be used for driving and identification.

I am wondering if we renew our dr. lic. a REAL ID will be part of or the same card? It would be a PITA just to fly across the state and have to carry a passport just for that.

[Jim Richards]

CA DMV says they’ll offer DLs that are Real ID-compliant starting on Jan 22nd of this year. So, I’d recommend waiting until after the 22nd to renew, Jeff. Make sure you have the appropriate documents to provide to the DMV, so it can be a one-and-done visit.

[Jim Richards]

BTW, my DL won’t expire until shortly before the drop dead date for using existing CA DLs. I’m going to wait until then.

[look 171]

Dang it. I just renewed it a few months ago. Went in and took my mug shot

[Jim Richards]

Well, you’re good through Sept 30, 2020.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Well, you’re good through Sept 30, 2020.

Don't think mine is a REAL ID because I didn't bring anything but my old dr. lic. and took a mug shot. That was it