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One of our local officers stops in all the time. Super cool guy. 5 years out from throat cancer . They say he is cured.
Anyhow, was telling me how he arrested all these junkies over the years, and really looked down on them, never understood how they got to be in such bad shape, and really blamed the individual . He checked himself into re-hab . After 6 months of Oxy use for real, honest to goodness pain, he simply could not kick the habit. He said it was the scariest thing he has ever experienced. A life time of no drugs, no alcohol, no smoking, and he found himself in the same place as all the degenerates he had been arresting all these years. Kind of an eye opener for me. Some of you clearly have no idea of the dynamics of this whole drug thing |
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And hell yeah...smoking MJ all day long is a walk in the sunshine compared to opiates....I wish her the best.... |
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Sorry Toby...didn't want to mislead...methadone treatment is EXTREMELY regulated (rightfully so)....any trace of anything else (even an aspirin) is scrutinized. That said....now throw twice the medically acceptable levels of Ambien into the mix....
Doctor prescribes, drug store supplies.... And if none of y'all think this applies to you....well, they're driving under the influence of this schit...just about every one :(. For some reason, prescription meds get a pass by LEO even if the driver is whacked out of their mind and totals 3 cars or is just TOTALLY fuked up driving at 8 am, two blocks after leaving their clinic :(. How I know this? ...I was called to the scene :( |
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Bob, I feel for you to brother...sometimes life just sux...
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A simple path was laid out for him for all to be expunged. Could not do it. Info technology four year degree. Smart as a whip. Several felonies that will now stick. Opana. Severe pain opiate. |
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I work part time as an investigator for the medical examiner's office. Opioid OD deaths account for a very, very small fraction of our cases.
On the other hand, heroin deaths account for about 80% of our accepted cases. . |
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I think you are incorrect about false cardiac connections, there is a mechanistic reason... from here: MMS: Error Important bit: Coincident with the approval of rofecoxib and celecoxib in 1999, my colleagues and I reported that both drugs suppressed the formation of prostaglandin I2 in healthy volunteers.2 Prostaglandin I2 had previously been shown to be the predominant cyclooxygenase product in endothelium, inhibiting platelet aggregation, causing vasodilatation, and preventing the proliferation of vascular smooth-muscle cells in vitro. However, it was assumed that prostaglandin I2 was derived mainly from COX-1, the only cyclooxygenase species expressed constitutively in endothelial cells. This assumption later proved incorrect, since studies in mice and humans showed that COX-2 was the dominant source. The individual cardiovascular effects of prostaglandin I2 in vitro contrast with those of thromboxane A2, the major COX-1 product of platelets, which causes platelet aggregation, vasoconstriction, and vascular proliferation. Whereas aspirin and traditional NSAIDs inhibit both thromboxane A2 and prostaglandin I2, the coxibs leave thromboxane A2 generation unaffected, reflecting the absence of COX-2 in platelets. Increasing laminar shear stress in vitro increases the expression of the gene for COX-2, leading our group to suggest that COX-2 might be hemodynamically induced in endothelial cells in vivo. If so, suppression of the COX-2–dependent formation of prostaglandin I2 by the coxibs might predispose patients to myocardial infarction or thrombotic stroke. Thus, a single mechanism, depression of prostaglandin I2 formation, might be expected to elevate blood pressure, accelerate atherogenesis, and predispose patients receiving coxibs to an exaggerated thrombotic response to the rupture of an atherosclerotic plaque. The higher a patient's intrinsic risk of cardiovascular disease, the more likely it would be that such a hazard would manifest itself rapidly in the form of a clinical event. However, my point was that even if there is a possibility of a cardiac event, it should be up to the patient and doctor to decide if that risk is worth it for them. |
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Fentanyl is now our nightmare. One thing that is really disturbing is hearing some of the MD's I've dealt with over the years, getting bagged for writing bad scripts. Its sad. . |
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I'm now confused. Heroin cut with fentanyl is a completely different problem and not even remotely related to prescription opiates. I thought the issue of the opioid epidemic was prescription drugs, not illicit? Illegal fentanyls are home brew, not COTs. You can get the one pot synthesis from the peer reviewed literature. |
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His very recent trouble stems from alcohol abuse. He is not a chill drunk. OK. I'll shut up. It is as Tadd says off topic. Thank you for the kind words. |
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the reality is that they are directly related...almost a given. Even if you take H out of the equation, the number of script opiate ODs is still epidemic here.... H w/ Fentanyl has just blown it through the stratosphere... |
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KC, I never said they weren't related. All I said was a lot of the cases I see, the user did not have a previous, script opioid issue.
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Yup, my sis started with a perc script, then for whatever she could get. Would take 10+ 10mg percs and chew the slow release fentenal patches. Kids would steal her percs. Then they graduated to heroin. But all started with a script.
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