Orion Constellation

[MRM]

That's because the aliens lost their star chart to Earth, they found a happier Disneyland, and they stopped coming to earth about then. Without our alien overlords to keep us in line, humans wandered in their practices until the original intent was obscured completely.

[BK911]

We have no idea how old the pyramids are.
Using the graffiti they get dated 4500 years old.
But nobody knows for certain if the Egyptians found them or built them.
Other advanced sites have been found and are believed to be 15,000 years old.
For all we know there could have many advanced civilizations throughout the earths existence that have gone extinct.
Only the stones remain.

[MRM]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Imagine that you swallowed the lie.
Like said, there is less known about the Pmids then known.
A lot of promoted presumption is the propaganda from Egtoligist.
They make a lot of money from teaching their point of view.
AFAIK they have never found even one a tool at the site of them.
This alone is a conundrum as most sites have something left.
They could be 20ooo years old for all we know, part of a lost society that came and went.
We as humans have a very difficult time with time.
A million years is almost nothing.
4000 and 600 years is what we are used to hearing as the demarkation, but is entirely untrue as to the human history.
It is time to be rewritten as we know it.
We have so much wrong.

Oldest cave-man art in Europe dates back 40,800 years - Technology & Science - CBC News

That's some authentic frontier gibberish, right there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U

[masraum]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

We often to think that the ancients were not as intelligent as we are now. That is simple not true, they were no different than us, just saddled with lack of learning and often a very oppressive church or state religion. The Egyptians and the Greeks and Romans all built some astonishing buildings. No aliens, no supernatural magic, just the brains of home-sapiens and the hands with opposable thumbs, and a lot of hard work.

This is something that I often think and wonder about. I often see shows or read things that seem to espouse the idea that the ancients were morons or were little more than monkeys, but I think that's VERY naive and short-sited. I think the ancients knew a lot more than most folks give them credit for. They may not have had all of the details surrounding how and why or the advanced math that could show the proof, but that doesn't mean that they weren't able to plan something based on math, physics, chemistry, and then go out and create it and have that process be repeatable.

I remember watching some sort of show on the History channel or the Discovery channel once that was talking about some new little tidbit of info and how a few scientists were theorizing about how that tidbit might have to change the way we think about something in the very distant past. I can't remember if it was cave men, or dinosaurs or what exactly. Then they brought in some other scientist to give the counterpoint to the theory. I'll never forget, the guy came on and said something like "there's absolutely no way that that occurred / was possible / ever happened". I remember being a little stunned and thinking, "wow, what a horrible scientist, speaking in absolutes about something from that long ago, where all we have to go on is stone tools or fossils or whatever it was.

I suspect that many, many civilizations have known or been able to do some things that would really shock many/most modern men.

Think about it, most of us have probably heard of or read about some of the folks from a long time ago that were amazing thinkers, whether it be Aristotle, Newton, Rembrandt, Galileo, Euclid, etc.... Check with any math or science nerd and you'll probably hear about their favorite old smart person. Do you really think that a certain time in the age of men had a particular monopoly on smart folks? No, of course not. I believe that ancient man also did some incredible travelling that most folks would be shocked by. I think most here would probably nod agreement at the thought that Nordic folks or vikings had probably set foot on North America long before Christopher Columbus did.

I think the big difference between the ancients and modern man is technology not raw intelligence. Technology hasn't made us smarter, but it has made certain tasks easier or enabled us to expand our reach farther into certain fields that we could have without the technology. It's not that we are smarter, we've just developed more advanced technology.

[masraum]

Oh and



I wonder what this guy thinks of becoming such a huge meme? He's probably laughing all of the way to the bank.

[MRM]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Words with no proof are pretty EZ for the brainwashed, wonder bread fed disciples of authentic BS taught at your favorite think tank.
It takes no effort on your part.
However, it will come to pass and will be seen the Pmids have nothing to do with the Egyiontion heritage.

AB, I love you (in a completely manly and socially acceptable way that is meant to confer approval and appreciation and nothing else), but when you learn to write in English I'll be able to evaluate the merits of what your position. In the meantime, I truly have no idea what you're saying. I think I agree with the general thrust of what you're saying, but I'm really not sure because I really don't understand what you write.

[MRM]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

MRM
It is all in the viscosity.
Indecision leads to a flexibility. I ams what i ams
.................................................. ..........
next
I read somewhere a long time ago and I cant prove it....
It said the Ancients "could bend Marble."
Maybe you guys could park that in a dendrite cell and if you stumble across it, post it here.
Thanx.

Dude. You are genius. Tab's remains our resident Oracle. But you have earned the right to post whatever you want whenever you want in whatever format you want. I only wish Fint could learn to be so coherent.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Goldfinger was an alien!

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by MRM

AB, I love you (in a completely manly and socially acceptable way that is meant to confer approval and appreciation and nothing else), but when you learn to write in English I'll be able to evaluate the merits of what your position. In the meantime, I truly have no idea what you're saying. I think I agree with the general thrust of what you're saying, but I'm really not sure because I really don't understand what you write.

MRM....I luv ya man

AB....my eyes just glaze over....but carry on

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by MRM

Dude. You are genius. Tab's remains our resident Oracle. But you have earned the right to post whatever you want whenever you want in whatever format you want. I only wish Fint could learn to be so coherent.

Yer killin' me man....STOP IT

[Superman]

They ordered headlamps from Amazon. I know exactly how the pyramids were built, but I don't want to spoil the surprise for you guys.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by Superman

They ordered headlamps from Amazon. I know exactly how the pyramids were built, but I don't want to spoil the surprise for you guys.

Unionized slave labor force?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Look at the eighth pic dwn..
It gets pretty interesting if one knows just a little about architecture.
On a small scale EZ.
On a huge pyramid pretty difficult


https://listverse.com/2017/06/02/the-pyramids-of-giza-prove-advanced-ancient-technology/

Man excels at difficult.

[BK911]

Thanks for posting that link AB.
Very interesting read.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

.............
AFAIK they have never found even one a tool at the site of them.

This alone is a conundrum as most sites have something left.............

Are you aware of this?

2002
Pyramid Builders' Village Found in Egypt
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0805_020805_giza.html

The area, often called the "workers' village," is the site of a vast community that thrived some 4,500 years ago on the Giza Plateau. It may have housed as many as 20,000 people........................

Originally excavated during the 1999 to 2002 field seasons, the galleries appear to be part of a vast complex that also housed activities such as copper-working and cooking. ..................

The presence of a barracks could help explain the abundance of pottery, ash, and refuse found in the area, especially the tremendous amounts of animal bone. "When we excavate we find enough animal meat bone to feed several thousands of people," Lehner reported. "This would explain why."

The bones in the area suggest that workers enjoyed quite a lot of prime beef. Previous excavations have discovered that they also ate bread and fish, and drank beer.

Analysis of human remains has suggested that workers apparently had access to medical treatment. Evidence has been found of healed broken bones, amputated limbs, and even brain surgeries.

Page 2
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0805_020805_giza_2.html

Because the labor pool was a rotating force, contributed by local authorities from all over Egypt, the Pyramids project may have had a tremendous socializing effect.

This is why they now say they were not slaves, it was an honor or civic duty to participate in the "great project".

2010
NOVA - PBS
Excavating the Lost City
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/lehner-giza.html

Yes. The job of building a pyramid is hard for us in America to understand, because we have lost the sense of obligatory labor. But obligatory labor was very widespread in the pre-modern world, and as in all periods of Egyptian history it is likely that in this early-period labor was obligatory...............

Now, obligatory labor can range from slavery such as we know it from the southern United States in recent centuries to, say, the Amish building a barn.................

...............So what we have at our site is only one part of this Lost City.

And elsewhere in the world............................

2017
THE OLD WORLD 14,000-year-old village ‘older than Egyptian pyramids’ is unearthed in Canada and could reveal how civilization began in North America
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3297049/ancient-village-discovered-canada-triquet-island-civilisation-north-america/

The village on a remote island in British Columbia is estimated to be 14,000 years old - three times older than the Egyptian pyramids.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I am not a cut and paste man.
The village you refer to housed the people that dug the tombs for the Pharaohs.
Remember - there has not ever been a tomb found in a pymid.

Have they found any grain in them?

[masraum]

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-how-scientists-know-the-pyramids-were-built-to-store-pharaohs-not-grain

Here's How Scientists Know The Pyramids Were Built to Store Pharaohs, Not Grain

Because ancient Egyptians could write.
FIONA MACDONALD
6 NOV 2015

There's plenty of talk right now about a certain US politician's thoughts on the purpose of the pyramids. And while we'll let other sites deal with the comments themselves, we wanted to quickly break down the science for you, because despite common belief, the pyramids aren't actually that mysterious anymore.

While there are still some details we don't know, the reality is that there's a whole lot of solid evidence to explain who built them, how they were built, and, yes, even why the pyramids were constructed. So we wanted to go through some of that, if for no other reason than for you to use it during dinner party conversations this weekend (and you know people are going to be talking about it):

First off, the grain idea isn't as ridiculous as it might sound. It's a theory that stems from the Biblical description of text in the Old Testament, and has been around since at least the sixth century, when Saint Gregory of Tours wrote: "They are wide at the base and narrow at the top in order that the wheat might be cast into them through a tiny opening, and these granaries are to be seen to the present day."

You can see why, without looking inside a pyramid, you might think that. But this idea has since been discredited by scientists for a number of reasons.

1. Pyramids aren't hollow: They're incredibly solid and usually only contain a few claustrophobic chambers, connected by long, sloping pathways and concealed entrances, in order to confuse potential tomb raiders. Not a very efficient place to store grain.

2. Ancient Egyptians left instructions inside the pyramids: Archaeologists have found funerary text inscriptions inside pyramid chambers built between 2375 and 2160 BCE, which serve the sole purpose of instructing the dead pharaoh's soul how to cross over to the afterworld. That would be a strange thing to put inside a granary.

3. There's evidence of burial inside the pyramids: "Pyramids were definitely used as tombs: burial equipment, such as sarcophagi, jewellery, mummies or mummy parts were found in some of them. (The others were robbed in antiquity, or in a few cases the burial chambers are below the water table)," archaeologist Deborah Sweeney from Tel Aviv University in Israel told Jewish news site Haaretz over email.

4. There are lots of different pyramids, built over thousands of years: There are more than 100 pyramids known in Egypt, and they were built anywhere between 2686 and 1750 BCE. South of Egypt, in Sudan, there are around 255 of the structures. All the ones studied appear to have served as tombs.

5. Ancient Egyptians actually had granaries: And they've been studied by archaeologists. "These were normally dome-shaped buildings open at the top, which stood near houses and government buildings," said Sweeney.

6. The only grain found in pyramids is part of a burial ritual: To be fair, there have been a few odd remains of grain found in pyramids by archaeologists, but this is part of an Egyptian burial ritual known as the Osiris bed, as the Tour Egypt site explains:

"These are wooden trays in the form of the god, Osiris, which were planted with seeds of grain. They were expected to germinate once the tomb was sealed, and were symbolic of the continuation of life after death."

So there you have it. We think the evidence speaks for itself. And just in case it doesn't, we'll leave you with this:

Ben Carson thinks the pyramids were used to store grain, not buried rulers. 1) pyramids aren't hollow, and 2) ancient Egyptians could write.

[masraum]

Egypt’s Oldest Papyri Detail Great Pyramid Construction - History in the Headlines

In 2013, a joint team of French and Egyptian archaeologists discovered a remarkable find in a cave at the ancient Red Sea port of Wadi el-Jarf—hundreds of inscribed papyrus fragments that were the oldest ever unearthed in Egypt. As Egyptologists Pierre Tallet and Gregory Marouard detailed in a 2014 article in the journal Near Eastern Archaeology, the ancient texts they discovered included a logbook from the 27th year of the reign of the pharaoh Khufu that described the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

The hieroglyphic letters inscribed in the logbook were written more than 4,500 years ago by a middle-ranking inspector named Merer who detailed over the course of several months the construction operations for the Great Pyramid, which was nearing completion, and the work at the limestone quarries at Tura on the opposite bank of the Nile River. Merer’s logbook, written in a two-column daily timetable, reports on the daily lives of the construction workers and notes that the limestone blocks exhumed at Tura, which were used to cover the pyramid’s exterior, were transported by boat along the Nile River and a system of canals to the construction site, a journey that took between two and three days.

he inspector, who led a team of sailors, also noted that the vizier Ankhhaef, Khufu’s half-brother and the “chief for all the works of the king,” was overseeing the enormous construction project. Additional logbooks provide information about other projects undertaken by the same team of sailors in the same year, including the construction of a harbor along the Mediterranean Sea.

After their discovery in the caves of Wadi el-Jarf, which is the most ancient maritime harbor known to date, the archaeologists transferred nearly 800 fragments of varying sizes in 100 glass frames to the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities. Last Thursday, six of the papyri were placed on public display at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo as part of a special exhibition.

Among the papyri now open to public view are accounting documents. Very similar to modern-day ledgers, the ancient financial balance sheets record revenues transferred from various Egyptian provinces in red and payments for food and wages in black. “The documents indicate the highly efficient administrative system in Khufu’s reign,” said Egypt’s Ministry of Antiquities.

According to the Associated Press, ministry official Sabah Abdel-Razek told the Egyptian state-news agency that other papyri describe food distribution to workers, including one in clear hieroglyphics that records the number of sheep imported for the project. Another ministry official, Hussein Abdel-Bassir, told the Associated Press, “These show the administrative power and the central nature of the state at the time of Khufu.”

In spite of the location of their discovery nearly 150 miles southeast of Giza, the relics do not contain any information about activities related to the pyramid construction at Wadi el-Jarf. “The surprising presence of these documents on the Red Sea site at Wadi el-Jarf is most likely explained by the fact that the same specialized teams that worked on the construction of the royal tomb were also responsible for some operations at this port facility,” Tallet surmised. One possible explanation is that the Red Sea port could have been a distant dependency of the Great Pyramid project in order to obtain the copper needed to fashion the necessary tools for the structure’s construction.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

The Egyptians became enchanted with them , who would not?
Then claimed them as part of their heritage.

The true Egyptians are the Copts, or Coptic people which in ancient Hellenic/Greek means "The Builders".

To this day they are a highly skilled people I am told.

The invading Arab Muslims came many centuries later and now make up 90% of the population.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by MRM

AB, I love you (in a completely manly and socially acceptable way that is meant to confer approval and appreciation and nothing else)

Ohhh come on lets get real here! That's like saying you buy Hustler magazine for the articles. What you really want to satisfy are those dark and prurient urges of putting your Kiebasa someplace dark and wet where it can explode in geysers of ecstasy.